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  • ercha85
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7

    #1

    Problem with bizhub C253

    Hi, everyone. I have KM bizhub c253, and few days ago my printer started to act strangely. First, when I turn the printer I hear some loud noise, and then during printing I hear same noise. In one moment on printer screen appears an error code C3101, and when I open a front door, and close it, that error removes. Also, for couple times on screen appears note that I had to check Waste toner cartridge. Does anybody know what could be a problem?
    Thanks.
  • ineo+6501
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Mar 2010
    • 262

    #2
    Re: Problem with bizhub C253

    C3101 is a fusing roller separation failure. Check that there is nothing jammed in the fuser unit.

    You may need a new fuser unit.

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    • JustManuals
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      5,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2006
      • 9838

      #3
      Re: Problem with bizhub C253

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      • ercha85
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Problem with bizhub C253

        edit: Also, I notice that about a minute after printing of something, I heard same noise (like some gear stroke some other part) and thats repeated on few minutes, and lest for 1-2 seconds. Does anybody have some idea? There is no more error c-3101, only loud noise, and there is message that I should check Waste toner box, but I assume that this loud noise from printer and this message are in connection...

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        • EarthKmTech
          Step aside, noob

          1,000+ Posts
          • May 2009
          • 2139

          #5
          Re: Problem with bizhub C253

          Gear grinding noise during printing and warmup and periodically as transfer belt rotates along with check waste toner box means its time to buy a new machine.

          Unless you feel like doing the 20+ hour job of removing the obstuction in one of the toner hoppers.

          Course, it might not be that, and i hope it isnt ( for your sake!)

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          • blaze2000
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            Site Contributor
            100+ Posts
            • Sep 2010
            • 232

            #6
            Re: Problem with bizhub C253

            Fuser retraction motor failure most likely, replace that.Your fuser unit probably might need replacement as well, you will have to physically check it out to determine that. The waste toner is independent of the fusing system and noises you have. Replace or empty out your waste toner bottle.

            The sensor for motor retraction is also possibly a suspect part. Check PS38 for proper operation.
            Last edited by blaze2000; 02-17-2012, 11:24 PM. Reason: additional info

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            • EarthKmTech
              Step aside, noob

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2009
              • 2139

              #7
              Re: Problem with bizhub C253

              The times ive seen the jammed hopper its from a plastic slug from inside the toner cartrige left in there from manufacturing. Realisticly if proven so, km should be responcible for all of these repairs as thats just piss poor.

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              • JSC
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                500+ Posts
                • Dec 2006
                • 618

                #8
                Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                Originally posted by ercha85
                edit: Also, I notice that about a minute after printing of something, I heard same noise (like some gear stroke some other part) and thats repeated on few minutes, and lest for 1-2 seconds. Does anybody have some idea? There is no more error c-3101, only loud noise, and there is message that I should check Waste toner box, but I assume that this loud noise from printer and this message are in connection...
                It sounds like you have some clumpy toner in the toner system, its normally the Yellow & a complete shit to fix. It takes me about 4 to 6 hours I have done 3 so far.


                Good luck
                The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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                • Vy2
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                  Originally posted by JSC
                  It sounds like you have some clumpy toner in the toner system, its normally the Yellow & a complete shit to fix. It takes me about 4 to 6 hours I have done 3 so far.


                  Good luck
                  How did you fix it? I am having the same problem right now. I had replaced a yellow toner and it took forever to warm up and then when it finally warmed up, it would make this loud noise in the back door.

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                  • Mitch Barron
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 180

                    #10
                    Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                    Sounds to me that its the transport on the transfer belt. Take out the transfer belt and check the rest toner transport cannal. There should be 3 screws holding one side (metal plate) on and when removed you can see inside to the transport auger. Its probably blocked with clumpy toner...suck it out....replace the cover and try again. 90% sure thats the problem. No biggy. Just my opinion. >Best of luck to ya. Oh and happy holidays to all you tech heads out there in techy land. I got a 3 week holday with beer and my deck come saturday. Wooooohooo!!

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                    • Vy2
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                      Originally posted by Mitch Barron
                      Sounds to me that its the transport on the transfer belt. Take out the transfer belt and check the rest toner transport cannal. There should be 3 screws holding one side (metal plate) on and when removed you can see inside to the transport auger. Its probably blocked with clumpy toner...suck it out....replace the cover and try again. 90% sure thats the problem. No biggy. Just my opinion. >Best of luck to ya. Oh and happy holidays to all you tech heads out there in techy land. I got a 3 week holday with beer and my deck come saturday. Wooooohooo!!
                      Yep that solved it Though I had a hard time finding the side you mentioned to take it out. It's printing, but after a few pages, it would start to make the noise again. I am trying a different toner to see if it helps.

                      Have a good holiday!

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                      • Vy2
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 27

                        #12
                        Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                        Originally posted by Vy2
                        Yep that solved it Though I had a hard time finding the side you mentioned to take it out. It's printing, but after a few pages, it would start to make the noise again. I am trying a different toner to see if it helps. Have a good holiday!
                        Different toner didn't help. I stripped down the copier to try and get to the hoppers so I can de-clog it....stuck at how to get the hoppers out. I managed to remove the back layers...Help!

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                        • JR2ALTA
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2028

                          #13
                          Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                          Hate to tell you brother, but your machine is a brick.

                          I hope you work for a dealer who can replace it.

                          I work for a big dealer with 3 full time shop techs, and still condemned three c353 series because of this problem.

                          There was a good post about this a while ago, but CTN search function, is well...


                          The toner tube system is built into the machine beyond servicing. You either get lucky and vacuum out of the clump or like i said, brick.

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                          • Mitch Barron
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 180

                            #14
                            Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                            Dont give up. You have already gone this far, may as well give it a go. There was a video just posted about the auger mechanisms getting pulled out and cleaned. Doesnt go into much detail about disassembly, but you can have a look at what the parts look like and how far you need to go. Good video overall. Have a peek. Might help. I have never had to do the job yet....looks icky. Oevrall might learn something. Have a good one! All the best. Last day!

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                            • Vy2
                              Technician
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 27

                              #15
                              Re: Problem with bizhub C253

                              Originally posted by Mitch Barron
                              Dont give up. You have already gone this far, may as well give it a go. There was a video just posted about the auger mechanisms getting pulled out and cleaned. Doesnt go into much detail about disassembly, but you can have a look at what the parts look like and how far you need to go. Good video overall. Have a peek. Might help. I have never had to do the job yet....looks icky. Oevrall might learn something. Have a good one! All the best. Last day! Develop Ineo +253 Toner Compacted in Toner supply auger (machine view) - YouTube
                              My thought (about giving up) exactly this morning. I am so deep in already, might as well. I had one person tell me to re-assemble it and change the yellow IU....i doubt i'm doing that. =D

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