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  • jokacross
    Trusted Tech
    • Nov 2010
    • 110

    #1

    c450 strange problem

    Today a change an transfer belt unit on this machine and a week ago change the black IU. The problem is that the IU is almost in the end with 4648m I don't know why and the transfer belt is a new one and the counter is stuck on 382000 copy and doesn't count at all and I don't get a zero value due to be a new unit. I try to trouble reset but nothing happened. after change the transfer belt unit I try to run gradation adjust and the test pattern doenst came out to run correctly the gradation adjust. Someone can tell me what going on? or what I can do more to put this things run correctly. Thanks a lot!
  • Albonline
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2008
    • 1131

    #2
    Re: c450 strange problem

    for the counter to reset you must run gradation. If you cannot get to happen sucessfuly you will have to trouble shoot the copier and fix the problems. If you need help doing this explain the problem in detail and maybe sombody on this forum will help you.

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    • jokacross
      Trusted Tech
      • Nov 2010
      • 110

      #3
      Re: c450 strange problem

      and thats the problem. When running gradation adjust the test pattern dosent print. Can you tell me what can cause this problem? and what about the IU any idea?

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      • jokacross
        Trusted Tech
        • Nov 2010
        • 110

        #4
        Re: c450 strange problem

        after try doing gradation adjust in right corner of the touchscreen says "STABILIZER NG" . Any clue? thanks
        I already take out the IUs, the transfer image unit clean every thing, and still same problem.

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        • Mooseface2r
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jan 2011
          • 114

          #5
          Re: c450 strange problem

          Has the machine got an oil can or any p codes. From what I remember you can't run gradation if you've got p codes.

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          • jokacross
            Trusted Tech
            • Nov 2010
            • 110

            #6
            Re: c450 strange problem

            there are no codes or any error. The machine works fine! just this problem of no getting the machine to produce the gradation adjust sheet

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            • Albonline
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Sep 2008
              • 1131

              #7
              Re: c450 strange problem

              from memory here, there was something haveing to do with 2nd transfer boost for high altittudes that when set disabled gradation adjustments

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              • Darren King
                copiertech

                500+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 652

                #8
                Re: c450 strange problem

                The gradation adjustment chart does not print and the machine flashes STABILYZER NG.
                Description:
                The gradation adjustment chart does not print and the machine flashes STABILYZER NG.
                Solution:
                CAUSE: There is a problem with the image produced by one of the imaging units or a problem with the belt unit.

                SOLUTION: In test print mode, print all four halftones with the density set to 255 to determine the problem

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                • jokacross
                  Trusted Tech
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 110

                  #9
                  Re: c450 strange problem

                  the blue image unit is not at is best. this might be the cause of this? ok im going to change the blue unit and see if the problem get solved! And the client can make copy's ? thanks

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                  • RRodgers
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1947

                    #10
                    Re: c450 strange problem

                    Are all the trays set for standard paper? I don't think it will print anything but standard plain paper setting.
                    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                    • jokacross
                      Trusted Tech
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 110

                      #11
                      Re: c450 strange problem

                      Originally posted by RRodgers
                      Are all the trays set for standard paper? I don't think it will print anything but standard plain paper setting.
                      yes they are.

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                      • mrwho
                        Major Asshole!

                        Site Contributor
                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 4299

                        #12
                        Re: c450 strange problem

                        Originally posted by Albonline
                        from memory here, there was something haveing to do with 2nd transfer boost for high altittudes that when set disabled gradation adjustments
                        What he said.
                        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                        Mascan42

                        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                        Ibid

                        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                        • jokacross
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 110

                          #13
                          Re: c450 strange problem

                          Originally posted by mrwho
                          What he said.
                          Im going to see this to! thanks

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                          • jokacross
                            Trusted Tech
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 110

                            #14
                            Re: c450 strange problem

                            Originally posted by Albonline
                            from memory here, there was something haveing to do with 2nd transfer boost for high altittudes that when set disabled gradation adjustments
                            where I can change this value? thanks

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                            • Darren King
                              copiertech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 652

                              #15
                              Re: c450 strange problem

                              "Originally Posted by Albonline from memory here, there was something haveing to do with 2nd transfer boost for high altittudes that when set disabled gradation adjustments"

                              I am not 100% sure but I think when that setting is used the Gradation button dissappears. It sounds to me like the Gradation button is still on the display and it is unable to complete. It still sounds like an image issue to me.

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