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  • Gort
    Copier Demon

    50+ Posts
    • Oct 2011
    • 50

    C652 finisher disappears

    I have a C652 where the finisher (FS-526) randomly does not communicate when coming out of sleep/low energy mode. The paper jams in the relay unit as the finisher acts like it is not connected, no power or control signals from the main body.
    The display does not show the finisher, when it jams. If I power cycle the main power the finisher comes back on line and will be fine for a few days or weeks. This has happened about 10 times in the past 2 months.
    I have replaced the finisher wiring harness, finisher control board, finisher to engine wiring, relay unit board and wiring, re-flashed the machine firmware
    Before replacing all boards, memory, complete wiring and random parts I thought I would ask here.
    Sorry, I do not have a cat in my avatar.
  • ineo+6501
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Mar 2010
    • 262

    #2
    Re: C652 finisher disappears

    Had this symptom recently on a C550. It turned out to be a failing main power supply PCB on the machine, it was nothing to do with the finisher.
    Hope this helps.

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    • EarthKmTech
      Step aside, noob

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2009
      • 2141

      #3
      Re: C652 finisher disappears

      i also had the same symptom on also a c550 and it was also the power supply!

      bit of a common theme going here
      Last edited by EarthKmTech; 07-24-2012, 10:59 PM.

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 22599

        #4
        Re: C652 finisher disappears

        My experience with vanishing accessories on KM is that it's never caused by the actual accessory. I personally would start with the PRCB. In the one case when I was missing certain voltages on the power supply, it was caused by the PRCB not turning them on. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • Gort
          Copier Demon

          50+ Posts
          • Oct 2011
          • 50

          #5
          Re: C652 finisher disappears

          Replaced the main power supply yesterday, now a waiting game to see if the problem comes back.
          Tech support had some reported problems with the finisher connectors. The plastic finisher housing on the engine was damaged when the machine was delivered. I thought I would first fix the obvious.
          Sorry, I do not have a cat in my avatar.

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          • rrrohan
            Service Manager

            Site Contributor
            1,000+ Posts
            • Sep 2011
            • 1969

            #6
            Re: C652 finisher disappears

            We have been advised to not apply the finisher firmware to any of our C652 in the field as i can corrupt the finisher and apparently KM are investigating the issue.

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            • B0265
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jan 2007
              • 718

              #7
              Re: C652 finisher disappears

              Originally posted by rrrohan
              We have been advised to not apply the finisher firmware to any of our C652 in the field as i can corrupt the finisher and apparently KM are investigating the issue.
              This problem should be fixed in fw ver C5 or later.

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