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  • Gabriel
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    • Jun 2006
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    #1

    Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

    Bizhub c552
    The grey is printed as pink when printing a job.
    all internal print-outs are great, Gradation adjustmen was performed
    Magenta IU was replaced a month ago
    yellow IU was replaced 2 weeks ago
    Cyan IU was replaced yesterday
    Black drum, black developer, Image Transfer belt and
    transfer roller were replaced 2 weeks ago
    Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers
    Any help is welcome
    PS: I have doubts about the laser unit, but not sure how to test it
  • blackcat4866
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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

    Well, without an image sample I have only logic. Let's see how far it takes me:

    Gray (of whatever shade) is made up of equal parts cyan, magenta, and yellow. If your grays appear as magenta, then you're missing cyan and yellow. Why are you missing cyan and yellow?

    You say: all internal print-outs are great, Gradation adjustment was performed. But you say nothing about the resulting copies, or the results of the gradation. What do copies look like? What sort of numerical results do you get from the gradation?

    You say: The grey is printed as pink when printing a job. Does it affect all print jobs? All applications (programs)? Have you tried other print driver quality settings, i.e.: high resolution, low resolution, smoothing, dither, etc.?

    You say: Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers. Ok, that's one computer. How about other computers? Are they also affected? Same OS, or something else? Same application or something else? Have you tried a PCL driver?

    You say: I have doubts about the laser unit, but not sure how to test it. You should have doubts, since it's the same laser producing the internal prints and copies (oh, wait, you haven't answered that question yet). It's really unlikely that a laser would produce perfect prints from the print board, but not from a single PC.

    Based on the incomplete information you have provided, I'm going to make a WAG that you have got an anomaly with a single document, and if you make some minor change to the driver settings, the anomaly will go away.

    Sorry, that's as far as my crystal ball can take me. Provide me some additional information, and perhaps more of your future will become clear to me. The crystal ball can reveal your fortunes ... =^..^=
    Last edited by blackcat4866; 05-19-2013, 11:26 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • EarthKmTech
      Step aside, noob

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2009
      • 2139

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

      Originally posted by Gabriel
      Bizhub c552

      Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers

      Theres your problem.

      Use the PCL driver and problem will be solved.

      PS emulation on this series is shit, fact.

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      • RRodgers
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        • Jun 2009
        • 1947

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Well, without an image sample I have only logic. Let's see how far it takes me:

        Gray (of whatever shade) is made up of equal parts cyan, magenta, and yellow. If your grays appear as magenta, then you're missing cyan and yellow. Why are you missing cyan and yellow?

        You say: all internal print-outs are great, Gradation adjustment was performed. But you say nothing about the resulting copies, or the results of the gradation. What do copies look like? What sort of numerical results do you get from the gradation?

        You say: The grey is printed as pink when printing a job. Does it affect all print jobs? All applications (programs)? Have you tried other print driver quality settings, i.e.: high resolution, low resolution, smoothing, dither, etc.?

        You say: Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers. Ok, that's one computer. How about other computers? Are they also affected? Same OS, or something else? Same application or something else? Have you tried a PCL driver?

        You say: I have doubts about the laser unit, but not sure how to test it. You should have doubts, since it's the same laser producing the internal prints and copies (oh, wait, you haven't answered that question yet). It's really unlikely that a laser would produce perfect prints from the print board, but not from a single PC.

        Based on the incomplete information you have provided, I'm going to make a WAG that you have got an anomaly with a single document, and if you make some minor change to the driver settings, the anomaly will go away.

        Sorry, that's as far as my crystal ball can take me. Provide me some additional information, and perhaps more of your future will become clear to me. The crystal ball can reveal your fortunes ... =^..^=
        Blackcat is the man
        Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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        • AjitN
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          250+ Posts
          • Mar 2009
          • 287

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

          Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers

          Output color will differ when printed from windows seven ( compare to windows XP ), this I have observed at three different places.
          Still I have a doubt on Toner, we have many types of toner available in market for all the brands & models, everything looks same as original toner cartridges. In all the brands & models Magenta goes high (Xerox, KM or Canon). You need to check it again.

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          • Gabriel
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            • Jun 2006
            • 139

            #6
            Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

            blackcat4866
            EarthKmTech
            RRodgers
            AjitN

            This was an emergency service call, friday night at 7:00 pm
            Customer was mad, ready to go home.

            I just have time to do a basic inspection But as soon as I can
            I will back to this customer to do my homework an keep you updated

            Thanks guys, you are the best!!!


            Regards

            Gabriel

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            • RRodgers
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 1947

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

              Originally posted by Gabriel
              Bizhub c552
              The grey is printed as pink when printing a job.
              all internal print-outs are great, Gradation adjustmen was performed
              Magenta IU was replaced a month ago
              yellow IU was replaced 2 weeks ago
              Cyan IU was replaced yesterday
              Black drum, black developer, Image Transfer belt and
              transfer roller were replaced 2 weeks ago
              Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers
              Any help is welcome
              PS: I have doubts about the laser unit, but not sure how to test it
              Gradation was done at least 3 times for each copy and print?
              Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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              • Gabriel
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                #8
                Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                Problem fixed


                Rrodgers:
                Yes I did, I always perform Gradation at least 3 times for each copy and print

                This is what I did:
                I removed the MFP from the computer (they had 3 additional copies)
                Uninstalled all Bizhub C552 drivers
                Reinstalled the copier with most recent drivers in KM website

                that did the trick

                Thank you all guys for your help.

                Best Regards



                Gabriel

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                • Imsdal
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                  100+ Posts
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 111

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                  Hello Gabriel

                  What do you mean remove all 3 copies?

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22997

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                    Originally posted by Imsdal
                    Hello Gabriel

                    What do you mean remove all 3 copies?
                    I'm going to make a guess here that the enduser had multiple iterations of the driver installed, with different defaults. This is common practice in offices in which the endusers have a very low level to competence, and cannot consistently make driver property choices. One driver may be named "Duplex Tray2", another may be named "Labels Bypass" ... like that. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • Hansoon
                      Field Supervisor

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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3374

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                      I'm going to make a WAG
                      Glad the problem is solved but one burning question remains which not even Urban Dictionary can solve for me:

                      What's a WAG??



                      Hans
                      “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                      • blackcat4866
                        Master Of The Obvious

                        Site Contributor
                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 22997

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                        Wild-Assed Guess

                        I'll take credit for the idiom. I seem to be full of WAGs.
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • Synaux
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
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                          • Mar 2012
                          • 1224

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          Well, without an image sample I have only logic. Let's see how far it takes me:

                          Gray (of whatever shade) is made up of equal parts cyan, magenta, and yellow. If your grays appear as magenta, then you're missing cyan and yellow. Why are you missing cyan and yellow?

                          You say: all internal print-outs are great, Gradation adjustment was performed. But you say nothing about the resulting copies, or the results of the gradation. What do copies look like? What sort of numerical results do you get from the gradation?

                          You say: The grey is printed as pink when printing a job. Does it affect all print jobs? All applications (programs)? Have you tried other print driver quality settings, i.e.: high resolution, low resolution, smoothing, dither, etc.?

                          You say: Customer is printing from a windows seven computer using PS drivers. Ok, that's one computer. How about other computers? Are they also affected? Same OS, or something else? Same application or something else? Have you tried a PCL driver?

                          You say: I have doubts about the laser unit, but not sure how to test it. You should have doubts, since it's the same laser producing the internal prints and copies (oh, wait, you haven't answered that question yet). It's really unlikely that a laser would produce perfect prints from the print board, but not from a single PC.

                          Based on the incomplete information you have provided, I'm going to make a WAG that you have got an anomaly with a single document, and if you make some minor change to the driver settings, the anomaly will go away.

                          Sorry, that's as far as my crystal ball can take me. Provide me some additional information, and perhaps more of your future will become clear to me. The crystal ball can reveal your fortunes ... =^..^=
                          blackcat, you make me happy.

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                          • blackcat4866
                            Master Of The Obvious

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                            10,000+ Posts
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 22997

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub C552 grey printed as pink

                            Originally posted by Synaux
                            blackcat, you make me happy.
                            I'm glad that I can entertain you. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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