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  • mikeena
    Branch Technical Manager

    100+ Posts
    • Mar 2007
    • 219

    #1

    c203 wierd

    hello everyone so I have this c203 im working on. I have replaced the image unit transfer belt for other reasons and im getting a weird problem internally when you print gradation adjustments it prints perfect no marks but when I print or copy the lead edge is almost as if it is being erased more noticeable on black and white the colors come out better but u can see a where it wants to black though is noticeable. I thought 2nd transfer roller but then why is halftones ect perfect.it cant be the ccd cause it has bad prints as well so I guess the question im asking is what does print an copy use that the internal prints don't. my other thought is do colors have a higher voltage transfer then black. If it does it would tell me it is possible that the 2nd transfer roller is the problem any suggestions or anything would help
  • Phrag
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Oct 2012
    • 417

    #2
    Re: c203 wierd

    Do you mean that the lead edge of the image seems to be shifted toward the trailing edge more than it should be?

    Is it possible to upload some examples?

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    • mikeena
      Branch Technical Manager

      100+ Posts
      • Mar 2007
      • 219

      #3
      Re: c203 wierd

      ill upload images tomorrow at work if you were to look at them you would swear the black image unit was bad the image is there but there is a lot of white on I believe it is the lead edge as if the image did not transfer good but gradation and halftones ect are all perfect it only happens when you print or copy

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      • mikeena
        Branch Technical Manager

        100+ Posts
        • Mar 2007
        • 219

        #4
        Re: c203 wierd

        ok here are the pics just keep in mind like i said i replaced the transfer belt and image unit and it do not change nothing
        Attached Files

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        • JustManuals
          Field Supervisor

          5,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2006
          • 9838

          #5
          Re: c203 wierd

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          • scottybbb
            Trusted Tech
            • Dec 2010
            • 126

            #6
            Re: c203 wierd

            I would try transfer roller.

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            • mikeena
              Branch Technical Manager

              100+ Posts
              • Mar 2007
              • 219

              #7
              Re: c203 wierd

              Originally posted by scottybbb
              I would try transfer roller.

              i will try this on monday im gutting a c253 right now im pulling the boards ou of it to take with me i have some firmware tech support wants me to do (dont think it will work) but i was going to take the roller with me and change it first to see if problem goes away. i cant believe it would be it because the problem changes with orientation and the internal prints dont have any flaws but its a machine lol they do what they want when they want but yes 2nd transfer roller is getting replaced

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              • Phrag
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Oct 2012
                • 417

                #8
                Re: c203 wierd

                Originally posted by scottybbb
                I would try transfer roller.
                That would have been my guess as well, although it was a bit hard to tell what the issuer was with those photos, unfortunately.

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                • RRodgers
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1947

                  #9
                  Re: c203 wierd

                  You have the paper weight set properly?
                  Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22999

                    #10
                    Re: c203 wierd

                    Originally posted by RRodgers
                    You have the paper weight set properly?
                    You mean poor secondary transfer due to incorrect media settings? I like that idea. =^..^=
                    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • RRodgers
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1947

                      #11
                      Re: c203 wierd

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      You mean poor secondary transfer due to incorrect media settings? I like that idea. =^..^=
                      Ahhh ya mind reader you!!! ha ha!
                      Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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                      • nvram
                        Technician
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 40

                        #12
                        Re: c203 wierd

                        Hi, where the back of the transfer roller sits into the frame when the door is closed, there is a metal plate, this gets pitted and causes a voltage drop at the roller, remove the contamination, this should solve your fault.

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