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  • Konicoz
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jun 2013
    • 62

    #1

    C280 copy quality problem

    time to consult the all knowing oracle again, yes that means you. I have a machine that is messing with me and the worst thing is the customer is 600kms away. So not easy to trouble shoot. The original call out was for feint copies realised K dev was not turning, replaced the main drive unit, then K dev unit and drum for good measure. all toner and sensor levels are in spec and there are no errors on display or in Management report. I have checked and rechecked HV board connections. Machine has less than 100k on it. The prints did not gradually go like this it was like this from copy #1. I think it could be laser or maybe its shorting out somewhere. See Att and let me know what you think pls.

    C360 CQ.pdf
    Hey what ya doing? - just screwing around.
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22997

    #2
    Re: C280 copy quality problem

    The next thing I would do is emergency stop the machine with the ledger paper ~1/3 way past the secondary transfer. If you do this just right, there will be latent image all the way from the K drum to the secondary transfer. Then carefully pull the transfer belt assembly to check exactly where you've lost your image.

    Reversing back down the paper path:
    1) Developed image all the way to secondary transfer but not past?: Secondary transfer loss (unlikely based on your samples. It would affect all colors.)
    2) Developed image up to, but not including the primary transfer belt?: Primary transfer loss (maybe the K transfer roller is out of position or no connection or HVT?)
    3) No image on K drum?: a) no developer stir drive (I think you've already ruled this out), b) K laser failure, c) primary charge grid connection or HVT, d) image processing failure (PRCB or CCD, or something in-between)

    Are your management reports legible in black only? If yes, that narrows it down to the PRCB or CCD.
    Does that narrow it down a little? =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • JustManuals
      Field Supervisor

      5,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2006
      • 9838

      #3
      Re: C280 copy quality problem

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      • PeterG
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Jul 2008
        • 177

        #4
        Re: C280 copy quality problem

        We had a 280 do this. It was the K dev drive clutch.
        Yet you replaced the whole drive unit, didn't you?

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        • Konicoz
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jun 2013
          • 62

          #5
          Re: C280 copy quality problem

          Thanks Guys

          Peter - yes I replaced the Drive unit - Possible new one could be faulty (forgot never assume anything rule).. and didnt check it..

          Blackcat - yeah done that - stopped the machine mid copy. Image is like that on the K drum (no solid) The only place that has solids is where I stopped the charge cleaning pad so I am getting charge through the corona wire.
          Management reports are fine about 3cms down the page from the lead edge, the rest of the report is feint but legible.

          I am leaning toward laser unit the more i think of it.
          Hey what ya doing? - just screwing around.

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          • Konicoz
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Jun 2013
            • 62

            #6
            Re: C280 copy quality problem

            so found the problem..... I brought the machine back to the office and found a mouse..,..yep, found the little bugger inside the machine dead behind the power supply unit.....he had chewed on one of the coils on the charge hv board - replaced that and voila...fixed. so much grief by little rodent.
            Hey what ya doing? - just screwing around.

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            • gurko_gg
              Prod.Line Technician
              • Sep 2011
              • 43

              #7

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              • JR2ALTA
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Feb 2010
                • 2030

                #8
                Re: C280 copy quality problem

                picture or it didn't happen

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                • Hansoon
                  Field Supervisor

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3374

                  #9
                  Re: C280 copy quality problem

                  There should be a service code for mice.....

                  Hans
                  “Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0”

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                  • Blizzoo
                    Senior Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    500+ Posts
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 607

                    #10
                    Re: C280 copy quality problem

                    Image is like that on the K drum (no solid) The only place that has solids is where I stopped the charge cleaning pad so I am getting charge through the corona wire.

                    I found that a nice trobleshooting tip.

                    Mice can cause strange problems
                    Defects are simple, our mind is complicated

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                    • Synaux
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1224

                      #11
                      Re: C280 copy quality problem

                      Makes you wonder how it even managed to get in there!

                      Normally, with mice/rat problems, I would suggest plugging holes with steel wool (they really dont like that stuff), but that would most likely cause a plethora of issues with a MFP...

                      Tell the customer to stop using the machine as a lunch table and call pest control

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