Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

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  • mervincm
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 4

    #1

    Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

    Customer has a K/M C364 Biz. Scans occurs very quickly, to Userbox or even to USB-key. The problem exists when they want to scan to the units internal Userbox, then retrieve it later via web browser to the userbox. Retrieval speed is about 300 KB/sec for a PDF file. This user and Bizhub are on the same local LAN, so no slow network links.

    I thought maybe an isolated issue, so tried it at another site, and again the performance when you go to retrieve the scanned PDF to your local machine is brutal, same about 300 KB/sec.

    For now we are looking at using a USB key and walking it over, but this was not the intention when the device was sourced, and it has security impacts having these files on removable media is against policy.

    suggestions please....
  • wseyller
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2012
    • 1129

    #2
    Do they need access to the file from the MFP as well. If not then why not just scan via smb to a server share. Permissions can be applied to get the security they need. Otherwise I don't know about your issue as I don't setup userboxes that much as I don't have much request. Just giving you an option that can be just as secure and have instant access to the documents scanned. And maybe they can use a combination of both. Scan to userbox for docs they want to print when at the control panel.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

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    • Mr Spock
      Vulcan Inventor of Death

      1,000+ Posts
      • Aug 2006
      • 2064

      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

      That is about the norm for retrieving from user box. I would see if they will let you smb to a server. It would go a lot faster.
      And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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      • mervincm
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 4

        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

        We have so many of these devices that we want to have a standard. When we setup scan to a network share, users tend to leave it there as well as copying it to where it needs to be. This is significant waste of storage on the file server, plus Privacy/security issues. Scanning to the local HDD is self cleaning so it avoids this undesirable duplication. Any reason why it is so slow? It almost seems like it is creating the file on the fly (since compressed PDF is even MUCH slower) even though I am retreiving it in the format that it was created in (PDF)

        thanks!

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        • Mr Spock
          Vulcan Inventor of Death

          1,000+ Posts
          • Aug 2006
          • 2064

          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

          I do not know why it is that slow unless it is sharing network bandwidth and limiting it that way.
          I have an account that each user has a one touch (30 + users). They press their name and it goes to their personal folder on the server. Privacy and security set on each folder and an admin level account to get to the folders.
          And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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          • mervincm
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4

            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

            Originally posted by Mr Spock
            I do not know why it is that slow unless it is sharing network bandwidth and limiting it that way.
            I have an account that each user has a one touch (30 + users). They press their name and it goes to their personal folder on the server. Privacy and security set on each folder and an admin level account to get to the folders.

            We have verified network congestion is not a problem. We are using Cisco gigE switches, after hours, no local servers so no backups or anything like that going on.

            Scanning is not slow, its the retrieval.

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            • Albonline
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Sep 2008
              • 1135

              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

              when scanning image is stored in ram and transferred to the hdd. recalling an image pulls from hdd to ram decrypts and then then transfers. this work is being done by a relatively slow cpu while its maintaining all other machine functions.

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              • dc-master
                Technician
                • Jul 2015
                • 39

                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                I bought a C364e and have same problem.
                I had a C350 but it was very faster than this new model.

                Is there any solution?

                Thanks

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                • JR2ALTA
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2028

                  #9
                  Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                  I think you discovered a bug, you should contact Konica. Most firmware updates originate from us field techs. Eventually Japan takes notice.

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                  • dc-master
                    Technician
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 39

                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                    any other idea?

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                    • allan
                      RTFM!!

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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5459

                      #11
                      Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                      Use "box utility" on the PC itself, Could be faster. Mabe HTTP problem?
                      Whatever

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                      • Copier Addict
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                        • Jul 2013
                        • 14423

                        #12
                        Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                        How big are the files? I just set a user box up on a C364 we have in our shop and when I download it seems to be almost instant.

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                        • dc-master
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 39

                          #13
                          Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          How big are the files? I just set a user box up on a C364 we have in our shop and when I download it seems to be almost instant.

                          not too big. around 7-8MB
                          when I download file in local network, it done like downloading from internet and the transfer rate shows around 80KB/s. for a file like 8mb it takes more than 2-3 minutes to download

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            • Jul 2013
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                            Originally posted by dc-master
                            not too big. around 7-8MB
                            when I download file in local network, it done like downloading from internet and the transfer rate shows around 80KB/s. for a file like 8mb it takes more than 2-3 minutes to download
                            I just did a 7mb file from my user box and it downloaded in less than 20 seconds. You either have a slowdown in your network or something in the nic on the machine. Have you tried connecting directly with a crossover and removing the network from the equation?

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                            • dc-master
                              Technician
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 39

                              #15
                              Re: Konica Minolta C364 Bizhub Scans fast SLOW retreival via web from Userbox

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              I just did a 7mb file from my user box and it downloaded in less than 20 seconds. You either have a slowdown in your network or something in the nic on the machine. Have you tried connecting directly with a crossover and removing the network from the equation?

                              I didn't try that but at the same time, I connected to C350 and downloaded files from it by same way (web access) very fast. (I did it just to be sure about transfer speed)

                              Actually we don't have Konica Minolta officially agent in Iran and I did all setting by myself (I'm not a technician for copier and not expert). therefore maybe I set something wrong or didn't set. I checked most settings in admin user page by web access and also in service mode but didn't find something related to that.

                              Should I check any special setting that maybe effect on this?

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