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  • giddyupngo
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Oct 2014
    • 109

    #1

    [Error Code] C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

    Hi everyone,
    Brand new machine, set up in our shop, delivered to customer. Still at around 100 copies. Machine starts up okay to ready state. If you print internal, or make a copy, it errors out, C4501 every time. It will run a paper passage test, but anything engaging the laser errors out. The code is a Laser SOS (start of scan) error.

    1. Swapped out Laser/PH Unit
    2. Re-flashed G9 firmware
    3. Swapped out PRCB (Printer Control Board)
    4. Swapped out MFP Board
    5. Upgraded to J6 Firmware

    None of the above steps made any difference, also did trouble reset multiple times. The Service manual only mentions the Laser Unit and the PRCB as possible causes of the problem, The MFPB was a reach. Still no solution. Anyone have any experience with this?
    Thanks in advance.
  • JR2ALTA
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2010
    • 2028

    #2
    Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

    what did konica say?

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5459

      #3
      Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

      Harnas and ribbon cable? Do you get any P-Codes?
      Last edited by allan; 01-17-2015, 06:47 AM.
      Whatever

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      • copier tech
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        • Jan 2014
        • 8101

        #4
        Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

        Have you tried system reset initialization in service mode?
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        • giddyupngo
          Trusted Tech

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          • Oct 2014
          • 109

          #5
          Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

          Thanks for the replies
          JR2 - Konica recommended all the steps I took, I am calling them in a few minutes to find out what to do next.
          Allan - No P-codes, didn't replace harness or ribbon cable yet, but good idea.
          Copier Tech - Didn't try system reset initialization in service mode, thanks for the suggestion.

          I will update thread later.
          Thanks.

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          • giddyupngo
            Trusted Tech

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            • Oct 2014
            • 109

            #6
            Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

            Quick update,
            Konica is recommending replacement of the PH unit/laser unit control board. A small board on the left side near the laser unit. Will update once we get it and install.
            Thanks,

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            • giddyupngo
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              • Oct 2014
              • 109

              #7
              Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

              I forgot to post the resolution.
              No solution ever found, entire engine warrantied out and replaced. However, we kept the ADF, and that caused the new machine to code out. Turns out the ADF Dual Scan board was faulty, after replacing it machine was fixed. I don't know if the ADF Dual Scan board contributed to the C-4501 code, but if you get a C-4501 code you cannot resolve, maybe try disconnecting the ADF, could be a connection.
              Thanks

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              • tsbservice
                Field tech

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                5,000+ Posts
                • May 2007
                • 7911

                #8
                Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

                Today I installed C258. I was doing setup but machine threw C-4501 at some point. I quick look at CTN brings this topic although model is different and saved my time.
                I had luck to disconnect DF from machine and after doing trouble reset error cleared and I was able to redo DF setup.
                FYI according to manual C4501 is Laser malfunction and Relevant electrical parts are PH unit, MFP board (MFPB).

                Long live CTN!
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                • emujo2
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 1580

                  #9
                  Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

                  Ive had to exchange 3 C754es for the exact error..Nothing SSD recommends fixes it..If I get another one I'll try the ADF test. Possibly the ADF is bringing down a 24 or 5vdc power supply..E

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                  • dannu
                    Technician
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 25

                    #10
                    Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

                    Originally posted by giddyupngo
                    Hi everyone,
                    Brand new machine, set up in our shop, delivered to customer. Still at around 100 copies. Machine starts up okay to ready state. If you print internal, or make a copy, it errors out, C4501 every time. It will run a paper passage test, but anything engaging the laser errors out. The code is a Laser SOS (start of scan) error.

                    1. Swapped out Laser/PH Unit
                    2. Re-flashed G9 firmware
                    3. Swapped out PRCB (Printer Control Board)
                    4. Swapped out MFP Board
                    5. Upgraded to J6 Firmware

                    None of the above steps made any difference, also did trouble reset multiple times. The Service manual only mentions the Laser Unit and the PRCB as possible causes of the problem, The MFPB was a reach. Still no solution. Anyone have any experience with this?
                    Thanks in advance.

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                    • Copier repairman
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2019
                      • 86

                      #11
                      Re: C-4501 code on a bizhub 284e

                      This can also occur if the harness cable is bad or if the end connector contacts are bad.

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