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  • axyun
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    Question on DR411 imaging unit

    Does the Bizhub 223 imaging unit (DR411) include the developer unit one whole assembly or does developer have to be ordered separately? Frank/ActionPhotocopy
  • backspace
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    Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

    Originally posted by axyun
    Does the Bizhub 223 imaging unit (DR411) include the developer unit one whole assembly or does developer have to be ordered separately? Frank/ActionPhotocopy
    separately DV411

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    • axyun
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      Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

      Thank you backspace. DOes the developer come in the developer unit on the DV411 or do you need to order it separately and put it in? Also , do you need to reset the counter life of dv and drum or when you buy the DV411 and DR411 do they automatically reset the counter as they do on a few other models? Frank

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      • blackcat4866
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        Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

        Originally posted by axyun
        Thank you backspace. DOes the developer come in the developer unit on the DV411 or do you need to order it separately and put it in? Also , do you need to reset the counter life of dv and drum or when you buy the DV411 and DR411 do they automatically reset the counter as they do on a few other models? Frank
        The developer comes in a bag, must be ordered separately, and somebody has to pour it in.
        Yes, you do need to stir the developer, and reset life counters.
        The manual covers these topics. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • axyun
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          Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

          When i initially posted I assumed the DV411 was the developer assembly in a box and was therefore curious as to whether the developer was in it. I thought it was the assembly because the DR411 had similar type product code structure for drum assembly. Since finding out dv411 was just package of developer i realized you would of course have to reset life counters. I had read that on bizhub250 the changing wit new assembly would reset counter automatically. I could be confusing with Ricoh 1027 Photoconductor unit.

          Anyway i have FSM + TOM and have notes for dv and dm replacement procedures.

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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

            Sure, the Ricoh 1027 AIO looks sorta like the bizhub 223 developing unit.

            view.JPG

            =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • axyun
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              Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

              Wasn't about the looks of the unit just overall confusion about whether changing whole assembly auto resets life counters.

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              • antone
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                Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                Must reset counters and Developer...together always

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                • axyun
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                  Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                  Thanks Antone. Call was done yesterday afternoon and all is well now. Frank

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                  • allan
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                    Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                    Originally posted by antone
                    Must reset counters and Developer...together always
                    Why? If you change only the drum you only reset the PC counter and do gradation. If you clear the dev counter you must do Dmax and gradation.

                    Note if you do replace developer and not the unit don't clear the dev tank counter otherwise the dev change counter will reset to 0 it should be able to count up to 3. It does not matter if you don't care.

                    You can get 200K+ on a rebuilt DR411 and the same and more out of a DV411. This don't work well this S#$% toner.
                    For the dev unit you can get collars, seals and the mag roller.

                    Rebuilding the units must be done with great care there are many ways to #$% this up with devastating results.
                    I find these machine very forgiving.
                    Whatever

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                    • axyun
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                      Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                      Thank you for that info Allan. Frank

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                      • allan
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                        Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                        Originally posted by allan
                        Why? If you change only the drum you only reset the PC counter and do gradation. If you clear the dev counter you must do Dmax and gradation.

                        Note if you do replace developer and not the unit don't clear the dev tank counter otherwise the dev change counter will reset to 0 it should be able to count up to 3. It does not matter if you don't care.

                        You can get 200K+ on a rebuilt DR411 and the same and more out of a DV411. This don't work well this S#$% toner.
                        For the dev unit you can get collars, seals and the mag roller.

                        Rebuilding the units must be done with great care there are many ways to #$% this up with devastating results.
                        I find these machine very forgiving.
                        forgot. If you change the dev or fool the courter you should do the TCR auto adjusment.
                        Whatever

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                        • Brett GS
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                          #13
                          Re: Question on DR411 imaging unit

                          Originally posted by allan
                          forgot. If you change the dev or fool the courter you should do the TCR auto adjusment.
                          You may get a gray background but it will clear up in about an hour or so after so dont worry to much.

                          Brett

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