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  • copier tech
    Field Supervisor
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    • Jan 2014
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    [Jamming] C452 jamming every copy

    Has anyone got a suggestion for this (see picbelow) a colleague has this jamming issue, so far he's fitted a new fuser unit,fuser drive unit & transfer roller but still every copy jams & z foldsfrom all trays at registration. No P codes or errors (not sure what jam code islogged) bit stuck on what could be causing it!?

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  • jrf
    Trusted Tech
    100+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 142

    #2
    Re: C452 jamming every copy

    First thing to do is check Jam code in the counter list

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    • minimerlin
      Senior Tech
      Site Contributor
      500+ Posts
      • Nov 2007
      • 851

      #3
      Re: C452 jamming every copy

      Check operation of switchback unit! Looks like the guide may be stuck or solenoid is not working. Other part to check is exit on RH door and the drive gear train for this, just above the fuser.
      Please do not PM me without asking first.

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      • suomi
        Trusted Tech
        100+ Posts
        • Oct 2008
        • 152

        #4
        Re: C452 jamming every copy

        Clean>>A0P0 R731 00 Removal guide assy sensor "mirror"
        The Sensor below fusing unit is it broken??

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        • D_L_P
          Self Employed
          1,000+ Posts
          • Oct 2009
          • 1196

          #5
          Re: C452 jamming every copy

          Suomi had a good suggestion. A dirty sensor on the dust collector for the reg roller can cause that, and it's usually tech induced.

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          • copier tech
            Field Supervisor
            5,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2014
            • 7792

            #6
            Re: C452 jamming every copy

            Thanks for the replies.

            The tech has ordered a drive unit! so I'm going back tomorrow to fit it (if all the above suggestions don't work)
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            • emujo
              Field Supervisor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 3009

              #7
              Re: C452 jamming every copy

              There are also the door locks that can break and cause this...are you resetting the counts on the 2nd x-fer roller when replaced? Emujo
              If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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              • copier tech
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                5,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2014
                • 7792

                #8
                Re: C452 jamming every copy

                Yes always reset the counters. it's recently had a new transfer belt & 2nd x-fer roller too.

                I'm hoping its just paper dust on one of the sensors but I expect the tech to have found that in seconds!
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                • 907tec
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                  • Feb 2008
                  • 438

                  #9
                  Re: C452 jamming every copy

                  My vote is the pre-reg sensor, just before the paper dust collector. Either disassemble and clean thoroughly, or use some compressed air to clean out that sensor area. Is it throwing J3001 codes?

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                  • copier tech
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                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 7792

                    #10
                    Re: C452 jamming every copy

                    I visited this one yesterday, there's a clicking sound & loads of P-codes (P21, P28, P5)

                    I cheated the right door & noticed the belt isn't driving!

                    After stripping the belt drive I found a stripped gear in the belt drive! It's now on order.

                    Has anyone seen this gear fail? Machine only has around 800k
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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