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  • eliaso
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    • Jul 2014
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    #1

    left door problem kyocera 3050

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    I can't close the left door, the right lock is very near while the left lock is very far, and the gear of the transfer roller can't be fixed on the gear of the drum.
    Please help...
    This only have I found:
    God created mankind upright,
    but they have gone in search of many schemes.
  • blackcat4866
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    #2
    Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

    Do you have a broken transfer bushing or missing rear transfer spring? Also check the drive coupler at the top of the vertical path section. Does it close properly without the transfer assy? =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • subaro
      Service Manager

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      • Oct 2010
      • 1274

      #3
      Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

      On the very top of the door is the paper guide unit. It is white with lots of teeth. on the left of this guide is a spring with a white plastic piece that does not sit right when you close the door. remove this unit, a screw on either side and lift it out. close the door and check if closing properly. sometimes it can be reparied if you can
      figure out why or just replace it.
      THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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      • eliaso
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        • Jul 2014
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        #4
        Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

        Originally posted by blackcat4866
        Do you have a broken transfer bushing or missing rear transfer spring? Also check the drive coupler at the top of the vertical path section. Does it close properly without the transfer assy? =^..^=
        without the transfer roller assembly the door closes properly ,when I put the transfer roller, the right side of it doesn't come in it's place ,it must be shifted about 4 mm to the right .
        thanks.
        This only have I found:
        God created mankind upright,
        but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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        • eliaso
          Technician

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          #5
          Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

          Originally posted by subaro
          On the very top of the door is the paper guide unit. It is white with lots of teeth. on the left of this guide is a spring with a white plastic piece that does not sit right when you close the door. remove this unit, a screw on either side and lift it out. close the door and check if closing properly. sometimes it can be reparied if you can
          figure out why or just replace it.
          Without the transfer roller assembly the door closes properly
          This only have I found:
          God created mankind upright,
          but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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          • subaro
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            • Oct 2010
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            #6
            Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

            Originally posted by eliaso
            Without the transfer roller assembly the door closes properly
            In that case, remove the drum and then close the door and see what happens. The transfer roller assy is very simple and if both springs are in place on either side of the transfer roller, then you just have to place it on the frame and slide it to the left [rear of the machine ] for it to lock in place.
            If still not working, then remove all the parts, that is the tranfer roller frame assy, middle feed and reassemble.
            Only you can figure out this, as we don't have a visual of what is going on there.
            Only other thing to think of there, is if the drum protection cover assy is not moving properly and causing obstruction. check if it retracts when you open and close the door.
            Last edited by subaro; 12-19-2015, 03:34 PM.
            THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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            • Has Been
              Technician
              • Nov 2012
              • 48

              #7
              Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

              Originally posted by eliaso
              [ATTACH=CONFIG]31526[/ATTACH]

              I can't close the left door, the right lock is very near while the left lock is very far, and the gear of the transfer roller can't be fixed on the gear of the drum.
              Please help...
              Make sure the tab on the rear side is inserted into the slot of the base and slid to the rear so the catch can hold it in place.

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              • eliaso
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                #8
                Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                Originally posted by Has Been
                Make sure the tab on the rear side is inserted into the slot of the base and slid to the rear so the catch can hold it in place.
                all are in places and the stopper of thetransfer roller assembly is switched corect in it's place
                Last edited by eliaso; 12-20-2015, 06:35 PM.
                This only have I found:
                God created mankind upright,
                but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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                • eliaso
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                  #9
                  Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                  Hi
                  the problem is solved, it was so easy, the separation black gear on the right side wasn't in it's place .
                  It's the first time I see this copier, nice engineering .

                  thanks for all .
                  Last edited by eliaso; 12-21-2015, 10:50 AM.
                  This only have I found:
                  God created mankind upright,
                  but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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                  • subaro
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                    • Oct 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                    Originally posted by eliaso
                    Hi
                    the problem is solved, it was so easy, the separation black gear on the right side wasn't in it's place .
                    It's the first time I see this copier, nice engineering .

                    thanks for all .
                    Could you give a more precise description of the fix, as your reply does not make sense, to me anyhow. where is this separation gear, it is actually on the transfer roller.. when you are referring to the right side, is it to the back side of the machine when standing on front of the machine. please explain as others may have this problem and not knowing where to look.

                    Edit::
                    Looking at a transfer roller at the shop, i see now your transfer roller was installed incorrectly in the frame of the transfer roller housing. [your pic ]
                    the white plastic bushing next to the black gear on the transfer roller was in the reverse order and in the wrong position.
                    Last edited by subaro; 12-21-2015, 03:11 PM.
                    THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                    • eliaso
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                      • Jul 2014
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                      #11
                      Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                      Originally posted by subaro
                      Could you give a more precise description of the fix, as your reply does not make sense, to me anyhow. where is this separation gear, it is actually on the transfer roller.. when you are referring to the right side, is it to the back side of the machine when standing on front of the machine. please explain as others may have this problem and not knowing where to look.

                      Edit::
                      Looking at a transfer roller at the shop, i see now your transfer roller was installed incorrectly in the frame of the transfer roller housing. [your pic ]
                      the white plastic bushing next to the black gear on the transfer roller was in the reverse order and in the wrong position.
                      hello
                      the problem began when the left blackDSC_2554.jpg bushing was broken, I fixed it
                      if you stay in front of the left door and you open it, the transfer roller will be down, at the left you see the drive gear with 2 white bushing and the separation black gear, at the right, one white bushing and the black separation gear, the problem was with the right black separation gear, it was not in it's place,if you see the first photo the right black separation gear must be near to the transfer roller , I hope I explained with my poor English
                      note : the order of installation in this photo is not right
                      the right way is drive geare than white buching then black broken buching than separation black gear then white buching
                      This only have I found:
                      God created mankind upright,
                      but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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                      • subaro
                        Service Manager

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                        • Oct 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                        Originally posted by eliaso
                        hello
                        the problem began when the left black[ATTACH=CONFIG]31533[/ATTACH] bushing was broken, I fixed it
                        if you stay in front of the left door and you open it, the transfer roller will be down, at the left you see the drive gear with 2 white bushing and the separation black gear, at the right, one white bushing and the black separation gear, the problem was with the right black separation gear, it was not in it's place,if you see the first photo the right black separation gear must be near to the transfer roller , I hope I explained with my poor English
                        note : the order of installation in this photo is not right
                        the right way is drive geare than white buching then black broken buching than separation black gear then white buching
                        Thanks for your reply and explanation. But you keep saying separation, when in fact you mean the transfer, am i correct. Anyway, yes its the black gear first then the white bushing touching the black gear. the white bushing raised lip should be facing the other way from the photo you have. It is better if you can get a used housing for that transfer roller, seeing that the frame is cracked. good you get it working.
                        THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                        • eliaso
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                          Re: left door problem kyocera 3050

                          Originally posted by subaro
                          Thanks for your reply and explanation. But you keep saying separation, when in fact you mean the transfer, am i correct. Anyway, yes its the black gear first then the white bushing touching the black gear. the white bushing raised lip should be facing the other way from the photo you have. It is better if you can get a used housing for that transfer roller, seeing that the frame is cracked. good you get it working.
                          hello
                          I named separation gear, the two black gear without teeth, and maybe they touch the drum,that is why I named separation gear.
                          This only have I found:
                          God created mankind upright,
                          but they have gone in search of many schemes.

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