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  • yourownfree
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    Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

    What I am looking for is this firmware : 8/26/2014 which most likely will say 9 of 2014. If you have this firmware please email me.
    I have tried various things and the only thing that works are printers that have this firmware version. how to go backwards will be a challenge though as I have not quite figured that out. I have tried updating firmware to latest version from Kyocera site. I am a qualified tech and have access to the site and phone support. Yes I have called support. Their answer replace the main board and load it with newest firmware. Didnt work. I can take the main board from a working printer and put it in the one that just had a main board replaced and it will work. The new board will not work and is as before. The process light blinks even after job is completed, it blinks forever. You can reboot to clear so you can print from windows application.
    Ok here is more info.... I took another machine from another customer there to try. Same model machine 4100dn. The firmware was below the 8/26/2014 so I had a few firmware files except the one I need. I tried 7/2014, 1/2015 and 2016. none of which worked to repair. You cannot go backwards in firmware. But must be a way. I think I might have it figured out. Kyocera says they dont have the firmware file I am looking for. I took the main board out of the one that doesnt work and removed the battery and shorted the battery connector to reset the main board. When you boot now it will come up with an error. This is good because you can just load the firmware. But even if you try to load a previous version it will not load it but transfer a good image from the engine board. When you check the firmware now it will say what it was before you started and machine will boot fine. My proposal is to replace the eeprom on the engine board with a new one, and use the good main board that has the proper firmware in it and boot up. This should transfer the image to the engine eeprom. Now I will remove the main board and replace it with the cleared memory main board and try and load an earlier version before 8/26/2014 which I do have, And I bet it will revert to the version that was on the good board and I will have succeeded. I might not even need any firmware and just be able to use what I have to work with. I hope you have followed my reasoning. If you have the 8/26 firmware I would appreciate it. At least I will be able to prove to Kyocera the reason the as400 doesnt print properly is because its the firmware. Of course because of security updates etc, this should only be a temporary fix until Kyocera finds a cure.
  • blackcat4866
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    #2
    Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

    I understand perfectly ... and don't have that firmware. Sorry. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • Iowatech
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      • Dec 2009
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      #3
      Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

      Is the AS400 set up to print to that printer? I just did a quick web search, and there might be a little more work involved than you think. Or at least there was for me.

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      • yourownfree
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        Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

        The machine is at a bank and several machines do work, only the ones with the specified firmware. The bank has several locations. I am in contact with Kyocera again for a resolve and I am going to call another part of it to try and get the eprom unless they have a better idea. The end result is if they do not resolve it then the customer will buy a machine that will work and it might not be a Kyocera.

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        • subaro
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          #5
          Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

          Getting eeproms from kyocea is not like ordering parts. I think they don't like sending eeproms out. You wait period might be weeks. good luck with this repair. post a status page with the fimware version that works. maybe someone has it and will be generous to you.
          THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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          • Kyo fan
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            Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

            I have the firmware v.14.10.0020_(2014-08-26) you need. Post your email and I'll send you the link. Hopefully you will manage to fix it. If it doesn't help right away, try doing factory reset on the printer, and than load the firmware.

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            • JimHegs
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              Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

              Originally posted by yourownfree
              What I am looking for is this firmware : 8/26/2014 which most likely will say 9 of 2014. If you have this firmware please email me.
              I what you're looking for and a few others for that machine, PM me your email address and I'll get them to you.

              Jim
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              • yourownfree
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                Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                I now have the correct firmware thank you for your responses. Here is the update. I received the eeproms overnight. Now these eeproms can also be purchased online. They are PIC chips. Here is the number HT24LC32. My theory was wrong about the transfer of image from eeprom to main board. I tried it this morning. I put in a new eeprom then installed a board with version 8/26/2014 in it then removed board and installed a main board I removed the battery and shorted the board battery contacts which I thought was resetting the board as it would come up as an error. I then tried to install a version less than the 8/26 board version into the new cleared board but it just reverted back to 3/2016 firmware. So that tells me that the firmware is written on the main board and it stays there. There is no going backwards. So I will look for a main board with a lesser version or the same as I need and swap them with my newer version. We are a large company so should be a machine some where. I will let you know how it goes.

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                • subaro
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                  Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                  what method are you using to load the firmware. There are three method according to the manual for the fs-40000 which is similar i believe. parallel cable, compact flash and use. I would recommend using the compact flash card. see below.


                  1. Turn printer power off.
                  2. Remove two screws and then remove the
                  interface slot cover.
                  3. Insert the memory card into the printer's
                  memory card slot.
                  Figure 1-6-4
                  4. Turn printer power on.
                  5. Press Menu key on the printer's operation
                  panel and carry out the memory card formatting
                  procedure (1).
                  6. When formatting is complete, turn printer
                  power off.
                  7. Remove the formatted memory card from
                  the memory card slot.
                  8. Insert the memory card to the PC's slot or to
                  the adaptor.
                  9. Copy the firmware file to download to the
                  root directory of the memory card.
                  10. Remove the memory card from the PC's slot
                  or the adaptor.
                  13. Turn printer power on.
                  14.When message display (1) is displayed to
                  detect firmware in the memory card.
                  15.Message display (2) is displayed during
                  downloading.
                  16.When message display (3) is displayed to
                  indicate downloading is finished.
                  17. Turn printer power off.
                  18. Remove the memory card from memory
                  card slot.
                  19. Turn printer power on.
                  20. Confirm that message display (4) is displayed
                  after warm-up.
                  21. Print the status page. Print the status page
                  to check that the firmware version has been
                  updated.
                  Last edited by subaro; 05-10-2016, 03:33 AM.
                  THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                  • yourownfree
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                    Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                    this model doesnt have a compact card cover. or use compact card. But I did find a way to downgrade. I thought I had the right version but I don't have. As it turns out the library of firmware I was able to get has everything but the version I need. But I am am excited about having all the other firmware. I will contact another person who claims to have what I need. I am still desperate for the exact version. It is 9/14 which when loaded will show 8/26/2014. Here is what you do to load it. Use netviewer utility from kyocera and it will warn you that you are trying to downgrade but will do it. I was trying to upgrade through usb port as I always do because it is so much faster to do than hooking up network to my laptop. But it will not allow you to downgrade.

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                    • subaro
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                      Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                      Originally posted by yourownfree
                      this model doesnt have a compact card cover. or use compact card. But I did find a way to downgrade. I thought I had the right version but I don't have. As it turns out the library of firmware I was able to get has everything but the version I need. But I am am excited about having all the other firmware. I will contact another person who claims to have what I need. I am still desperate for the exact version. It is 9/14 which when loaded will show 8/26/2014. Here is what you do to load it. Use netviewer utility from kyocera and it will warn you that you are trying to downgrade but will do it. I was trying to upgrade through usb port as I always do because it is so much faster to do than hooking up network to my laptop. But it will not allow you to downgrade.

                      Yes you are right, this model does not have a compact card slot as i was suggesting earlier in the post. But looking at the service manual at the firmware update section ,there is an emergency procedure in the event that the upgrade had been aborted or stopped in the middle of the upgrade. I would give that a go if all fails otherwise.
                      THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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                      • yourownfree
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                        Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                        Originally posted by subaro
                        Yes you are right, this model does not have a compact card slot as i was suggesting earlier in the post. But looking at the service manual at the firmware update section ,there is an emergency procedure in the event that the upgrade had been aborted or stopped in the middle of the upgrade. I would give that a go if all fails otherwise.
                        Thanks friend. I am guilty for not looking over the manual. No excuse. Sometimes we just get in a mode and dont take the time to read. Although I spent hours trying to figure out how to decompress the firmware so I could force it to write the old firmware. Go figure. I appreciate all suggestions and comnents.

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                        • Kyo fan
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                          Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                          Can you empty you inbox yourownfree. Can't send you pm.

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                          • yourownfree
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                            Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                            got inbox cleaned a bit. Thanks to both Jim and KyoFan for the firmware. Kyo Fan had the the exact firmware which I was able to use to downgrade. Here is how you downgrade. Using KM netviewer from Kyocera, hook up pringter to your network or laptop, add your device, I did by ip address. Then Right click on your device, go to advanced then to credentials. Login using the default Admin,Admin then right click on advanced again and got to firmware upgrade, you can go either way you wish. Then browse for your firmware folder, open it up and select the file that has NWDL in it. This will install the firmware for engine board and all others you need just by clicking on that one file. that's it. easy enough. So as for the resolve of my problem of of not printing properly I will know shortly, today. Oh I did foul up something in netviewer and one point by experimenting. I then uninstalled and reinstalled it and it was fine. I was not able to see the printer or anything else on the network, but did at the beginning. Ok after reinstall. Just a note.

                            Update: looks like the firmware resolved the issue. I believe if we can get a proper driver on the as400 it will work with newer firmware. Its obvious the as400 works with older firmware but only this particular firmware version. There you have it!
                            Last edited by yourownfree; 05-13-2016, 07:12 PM.

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                            • Kyo fan
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                              Re: Kyocera FS-4100DN keeps blinking processing light after job is sent from as400

                              Thanks for update. Glad you resolved it.

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