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  • bush_tech
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    • Jul 2018
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    Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

    Hey all

    Having a strange problem with one of our machines, attached are samples.
    There is background on the prints, appears to be all colours and if you look carefully there is also some repetition which is 94mm apart.
    It is also throwing a few error codes that don't display but are being logged.

    7200 - Broken Thermistor K
    7241 - Broken Thermistor Belt

    7614, 7611, 7620 K and Y bias calibration read and Auto colour registration error (I thought these are just due to the terrible quality of print)

    I have inherited this job from another tech, very possible it is tech induced.

    Things that have been tried:
    Drums, Devs, Belt unit, main HVT.

    None have made any difference and the fault appears to be getting worse the more pages that are printed.
    I have cleaned checked all the contacts between hvts and units and also all earths are clean and making contact.

    Would appreciate any thoughts on this fault,
    Thanks guys
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  • doinbox
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    • Jan 2013
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    • sparkycivic
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      Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

      are the waste exits of the drums or belt plugged? We have had a couple of pluggages of the waste conveying auger/chute near the waste bottle and a waste bottle not turning(deformed housing). They were all really noisy/grind-y.
      We have also had customers somehow re-reuse the black bottle/waste and contaminate the black dv.
      I'm seeing yellow as well as black background on there... is there any chance grounding is somehow lacking?

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      • bush_tech
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        Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

        This fault has been repaired, I don't know why all responses to the thread have vanished including the fix.
        Admins?

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        • Geo
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          Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

          Originally posted by bush_tech
          This fault has been repaired, I don't know why all responses to the thread have vanished including the fix.
          Admins?
          So don't keep us in suspense....How was the fault repaired?

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          • bush_tech
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            Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

            Originally posted by Geo
            So don't keep us in suspense....How was the fault repaired?
            I was hoping the rest of this thread would magically appear just like it magically disappeared!

            If you have this fault you'll notice drum counts haven't cleared and if you switch U100 DC Auto Adj to OFF the fault will vanish.
            The fix was new drums, but I had to switch the machine on with no drums and allow it to error before the drum counts would clear on the machine.
            The drums I fitted without doing this had the count of the previous drum written to them, and they were cactus... backgrounding and high count despite being brand new. So they've all gone back to Kyocera who seem to think this was all caused by fitting drums without switching the machine off.
            The techs involved when this machine was on the field deny this.

            There was a response to this thread of another tech in america who's encountered this exact fault, so it's one to watch for.

            Cheers

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            • doinbox
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              • Jan 2013
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              • spree
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                • Jun 2012
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                Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                Hello, I need to make Maintenance call (A), I do not have service manual. What is needed to change (parts) for this MC (A) calling?

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                • Lasersupplies
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                  • Jul 2011
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                  Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                  Originally posted by bush_tech
                  I was hoping the rest of this thread would magically appear just like it magically disappeared!

                  If you have this fault you'll notice drum counts haven't cleared and if you switch U100 DC Auto Adj to OFF the fault will vanish.
                  The fix was new drums, but I had to switch the machine on with no drums and allow it to error before the drum counts would clear on the machine.
                  The drums I fitted without doing this had the count of the previous drum written to them, and they were cactus... backgrounding and high count despite being brand new. So they've all gone back to Kyocera who seem to think this was all caused by fitting drums without switching the machine off.
                  The techs involved when this machine was on the field deny this.

                  There was a response to this thread of another tech in america who's encountered this exact fault, so it's one to watch for.

                  Cheers

                  Thanks for this, was on my second dk. Setting the u100 DC to off cleared the backround straight away. Is it ok to leave this setting at off long term?

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                  • Phil B.
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                    Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                    Originally posted by Lasersupplies
                    Thanks for this, was on my second dk. Setting the u100 DC to off cleared the backround straight away. Is it ok to leave this setting at off long term?
                    3 year dead thread

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                      Originally posted by doinbox
                      If that’s the case Kyocera need to get there finger out and update the firmware to resolve this issue because you shouldn’t really have to power off before changing a drum.
                      I know this is a dead thread, but when you're replacing the DR and/or DV, you have to unplug the electrical connectors for both in order to get them out. If you don't turn the power off before doing so, you run a high risk of blowing a PWB or 2. ALWAYS turn the power off before unplugging electrical connectors.
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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                        Originally posted by Lasersupplies
                        Thanks for this, was on my second dk. Setting the u100 DC to off cleared the backround straight away. Is it ok to leave this setting at off long term?
                        From my understanding, the default is set to auto and by turning it off, DC Bias will not be adjusted automatically every time the machine is calibrated. If you leave it off long term, calibration would be unable to adjust DC bias as it needs to in order to compensate for wear of the drum as more pages are printed.
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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Re: Kyocera Taskalfa 3252ci background and error codes

                          One last thing...

                          As I've been going thru all the test commands, it took me a while to figure something out. Most of the settings that have to do with voltage of mag/drum/toner sensor, ect. can be adjusted "manually". But this is mainly for troubleshooting purposes or as a very temporary solution. When everything is working as it should, these values will be set during calibration.

                          It should also be noted that while you can manually change these settings, the next time the machine is calibrated, your manual settings will be erased and rewritten thru the calibration process. However, you can make the manual settings permanent in many cases by turning "auto" to off such as in this particular case. If you do turn "auto" to off and forget that you did it, you're gonna have some problems down the road because "calibration" will be unable to do it's job properly.

                          Hope that made sense and if anyone wants to weigh in, I'd like to hear it.

                          EDIT: I confirmed this yesterday by manually changing the settings. Once I did that I ran calibration and my manual settings went back to what they should be via calibration.
                          Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 01-18-2021, 06:11 PM.
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