Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

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  • monarke4
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    [Misc] Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

    How many prints/copies/scans count would be acceptable for a machine of this vintage?

    At what point should the machine not be considered for purchase used if the copy count is excessive?

    100K?, 200K? 300K? etc.

    Thanks
  • JR2ALTA
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    Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

    300k is the maintenance cycle, where all consumables should be replaced. If over 300k find out if that's been done. If under, expect to do it.

    Kyocera KM-2560 Maintenance Kit - 300K, Genuine (G9963)

    I don't think it can meet all the scanning security requirements of today, but overall a good machine.

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    • monarke4
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      Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

      I have a 6026cdn color printer I purchased about three years ago.

      I knew it's image belt was rated for 300K.

      Wasn't sure if it was the same for the mono-chrome machines with a photo-receptor drum.

      The 2560 will be replace an ancient analog Xerox 5334 in my home office.

      Thanks

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      • darry1322
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        Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

        Don't forget the operation hours on things like boards, panel, and HDD. Those things are page count independent. As long as the machine is powered on they are aging.

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        • monarke4
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          Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

          Originally posted by darry1322
          Don't forget the operation hours on things like boards, panel, and HDD. Those things are page count independent. As long as the machine is powered on they are aging.
          I understand this too. Surprising though how long circuit boards will last in the right environment. The HD however can be very different story depending on the brand name and type used.

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          • craigster
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            Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

            Anything with a KM is old and needs to go to the boneyard.
            its Discontinued.

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            • JR2ALTA
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              Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

              Originally posted by craigster
              Anything with a KM is old and needs to go to the boneyard.
              its Discontinued.
              It's for his home office. It's 100x better than anything at Best Buy

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              • Scott
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                Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                Run it till it dies, be prepared to replace at any time

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                • blackcat4866
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                  Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                  I've seen Stratos hit 1M and more. I don't think that you mentioned a count.

                  Yes you'll have difficulty scanning to email or SMB, but FTP still works quite nicely with the little utility.

                  Keep in mind that at low volume you won't get rated life from the ASi drums. Also lower your sleep timer to 5 minutes or less. It only takes a minute or two to fire up, and the fuser lasts much longer.

                  The document feeders aren't very good. I hope you weren't going to do huge amounts of scanning.
                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • monarke4
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                    Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                    Originally posted by craigster
                    Anything with a KM is old and needs to go to the boneyard.
                    its Discontinued.
                    Well that may be so, but the drivers and other software items are available for up to Win10.

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                    • monarke4
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                      Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      I've seen Stratos hit 1M and more. I don't think that you mentioned a count.

                      Yes you'll have difficulty scanning to email or SMB, but FTP still works quite nicely with the little utility.

                      Keep in mind that at low volume you won't get rated life from the ASi drums. Also lower your sleep timer to 5 minutes or less. It only takes a minute or two to fire up, and the fuser lasts much longer.

                      The document feeders aren't very good. I hope you weren't going to do huge amounts of scanning.
                      =^..^=
                      I do not scan to email, or IP fax. I have a Ricoh 5510L which I use for send/receive of facsimiles which I bought off a lease many years ago.

                      I will be looking at the machine this Saturday. I'll print out the Account Report and then ask the appropriate questions.

                      No high-volume document feeder coping/scanning at all. I don't expect the machine to "fly" like a 2nd and a 1/2 Generation technology Xerox 8200.

                      Yes I will re-adjust the sleep timer, for those times when I forget to put it back into standby.

                      Before the Xerox 5334 I had a Xerox 1020 (not XC1020). The smallest Marathon Copier model, it only copied, no reduce or enlarge.

                      The person whom owned it before me had cancer surgery several times. Then I read that the "Dry Ink" used in the 1020 was considered a carcinogen. That and one of the rollers turned to goo, it was time for it to go.

                      Prior to that a Xerox 3100LDC. Very simple to maintain. So easy to operate, my mother could do it, even to raise the clam shell to remove an occasional jam and slide the main switch on/off. It was big, heavy, and a fire hazard waiting to happen.

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                      • monarke4
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                        Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                        Originally posted by monarke4
                        Well that may be so, but the drivers and other software items are available for up to Win10.
                        Correction software up to Win8. I believe the current driver will operate with Win10.

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                        • monarke4
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                          Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                          I saw the machine today (Saturday).

                          The covers are a little dirty/dingy, seems to only be dirt which can be easily cleaned off. Internally the machine is quite clean. I did not see any spilled toner behind the Toner Cartridge/Developer/Photo Receptor access area.

                          I printed a copy using my Katun Monochrome Test pattern. All lines are straight, no bending or blank areas. With the exception of the Black Square blocks. A slight amount of graininess/lines, but only noticeable when you scrutinize it wearing reader glasses. The machine operates quietly, with no squeaks or groans. I did see one small spot of toner dropped on the copy but that was all.

                          The machine has 311,000 prints on it. I asked if a maintenance kit had been done at 300K, and he did not know. He explained that his tech assured him that the photo receptor was in great shape. He doesn't do the service himself. Someone does the service for him. He has several other machines and parts from various brands in his garage.

                          The seller is sightless. His teenage daughter led him around. She answered most of the questions I had to ask, and showed me anything I wanted to see.

                          I have seen MFPs of the same make and model which are are either used or supposedly "refurbished". With print counts of at least 400K on the meter and asking prices of three times as much.

                          Though some may feel $200 is out of this world, I think its fair.

                          Thanks

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                          • blackcat4866
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                            Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                            It's very reasonable. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • bush_tech
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                              Re: Kyocera KM-2560 acceptable # of scan/prints for it's age before retirement

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              I've seen Stratos hit 1M and more. I don't think that you mentioned a count.

                              Yes you'll have difficulty scanning to email or SMB, but FTP still works quite nicely with the little utility.

                              Keep in mind that at low volume you won't get rated life from the ASi drums. Also lower your sleep timer to 5 minutes or less. It only takes a minute or two to fire up, and the fuser lasts much longer.

                              The document feeders aren't very good. I hope you weren't going to do huge amounts of scanning.
                              =^..^=
                              Great machine as long as you don't need to scan more then a one page document haha

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