CS c3232 color regestration issue

[Guest]

A customer has a CS 3232 copier having blue color offset in the horizontal direction. I made adjustment on CH-F and CH-R ( very little needed ). However i have problem getting CV adjustment. When i adjust the value the blue lines either got too big or too small compared with the black reference lines. The blue lines do line up with the black reference line for CH-F and CH-R. I still have approx 1/8" horizontal shift to the left . When I printed out CV1 to CV-5 they seem to line up to 0.
I would like to know if I increase CV for 0 to 9 does the blue line spread or shrink?
Any suggestion would be much appreciated.

[banginbishop]

hi,

some of what you say is a bit confusing.

according to the manual and what i do is that CV0 (big black line) should meet with the big blue line (middle one) after adjustment. there are 3 big blue lines on CV - offset from E, level with 0 and offset from 5.

I have found that if the customer doesnt do anything to correct this for a long time the settings go way out and even after the initial adjustment it makes no difference so you have to keep doing it untill you bring the parameters back in.


e.g. ch-f - letter I should have a blue small line offset to the left but the first blue line might be under g (going left to right). To correct it you have to keep setting letter I untill the blue lines start to move back again into position and then select the correct letter/number when in its correct postion.


If you download the advanced operation guide from the kyocera website its gives you the colour registration chart that gets printed out and makes what i'm saying easier to understand.

[Casio_kid]

my problem is with C-V

Thank you very much for your help. I have the chart in fornt of me now. I think I understand it a bit better with your explanation. My problem lies with CV. So I need to keep setting CV to I until the thicker and longer blue line lines up with the black one. I should not use the shorter one to align the two right?
I am going back to the site eary next week to try. Any more advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks again for your help.

[Casio_kid]

Scanned Colour Chart printout enclosed

I am uploading the scanned colour registration output chart. Please take a look and kindly advice what I need to do. Thank you for your support.

[banginbishop]

ok,

cv-1 = 9

cv-2 = 9

cv-3 = 9

cv-4 = 9

cv-5 = 9


CV-1 TO CV-5 ALL NEED TO BE SET AS 9 untill they start to move back and it looks like mv-1 etc. Keep setting to 9 after each calibration and the lines should come back in order. All your doing is pulling the line back into position.

It looks like your doing the calibration from the print side i.e the fine adjustment try just the other option where you only have 9 inputs mv-r mv-c mv-f cv-r cv-c cv-f and yv-r yv-c yv-f.

This should solve the problem for you.

[Casio_kid]

Thank you very much

Banginbiship:

I really appreciate you help on my problem. My customer must had ignore this problem for a long time as you have wisely pointed out. By then the problem was too much for fine adjustment. Not know which direction to go I tried and tried ended up going in circles.

In other words if I need to to move up I need to enter I on the other hand if I need to move down, I need to enter 9 until the longer lines are petty much lined up, I then follow by fine adjust the color line with the black one right?

Thank you very much again!

[vikingmita]

-middle fat line need to match. known problem with voyager 1/1,5, and it doesn't need to be long time gone either. 'new' fw helps a bit, but still not uncommon to adjust 2 times to 9 and then some. personal high: 26 steps. bad design somewhere. that and bad fusers+developers. yay to taskalfa

[Casio_kid]

Thanks Vikingmita

Thank you again. Last time on site, i just did one or two 9s then I went the other way. That kept me in circles. I shall keep doing 9s until the fat lines are lined up. Thanks again.
How is the weather there, cold? I used to live in Minnesota , lots of nice Viking there. But too cold for me.

Thanks.

[bsm2]

lines

If you update the firmware always check it

the older the firmware it seems to go out badly

9's untill you get it closer

[Casio_kid]

where can I get my hands on the new FW for CS C3232?

bsm2:

Where do I get a copy of the latest FW. I don't have the service manual. I understand I may be able to copy the FW to a CF card or CF drive. Can you provide the FW and procedure?

Any help would be much appreciated.

[vikingmita]

Thank you again. Last time on site, i just did one or two 9s then I went the other way. That kept me in circles. I shall keep doing 9s until the fat lines are lined up. Thanks again.
How is the weather there, cold? I used to live in Minnesota , lots of nice Viking there. But too cold for me.

Thanks.

-been around 10F/-12C last two weeks. not especially cosy.

anyway, seems like you don't get what we're trying to say here. think we're talking past eachother:

you print out the page, and if things are ok, the middle (0) black and middle whatever colour line up. if not ok, maybe lines on lets say D line up. then change value to D. sometimes the machine is totally fucked up, and then going all the way to 9 (or the other way) doesn't get you far enough. thats when you need to repeat until lines match. getting all the lines to match is not possible, it's not ment to. it's nothing more exciting than aligning print heads on a normal ink-printer.

and about fw: there was sort of a fix a long time ago , but it also seemed to f.u. dev. settings, so be sure to get the latest fw. i'd say these machines were not finished in their development before release, and there's been countless fw-releases. we've totally phased these machines out b/c all problems, and if Kyo doesn't get things right with the taskalfas, they're dead in europe. i don't see any reason they shouldn't be able to make colour MFP as stable and solid as the old xx35-series.

[bsm2]

firmware is on the kmaconnect site

Check your firmware level
Type Program No. Check SUM Version Remarks
MAIN (IPU) 2FZ_2000.031.001 75C7 031.001
ENGINE 2FZ_1000.030.001 FEEC 030.001 * Note (1) Updated
SCANNER 2FZ_1200.003.001 D2A1 003.001
LANGUAGE A 2FZ_81XA.009.001 4532 009.001
LANGUAGE BR 2FZ_81BR.009.001 DC58 009.001 Portuguese (KMA)
PRINTER FS 2FZ_3000.010.003 877D 010.003
MAIN BOOT 2FZ_2100.003.002 CC90 003.002
Note (1) When installing Engine firmware version 019.002 and above in machines with an older version
firmware, please perform "resetting color registration adjustment value", "running calibration"
and "manual adjustment" .