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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

    Anyone hearing any news about Kyocera introducing a new MFP where the dealer stocks one box and then buys a seperate license to increase the print speed?
  • Tricky
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    Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

    No I am assuming there would be for example 3050 4052 5052 door badges inside the copier box?
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    • mga
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      Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      Anyone hearing any news about Kyocera introducing a new MFP where the dealer stocks one box and then buys a seperate license to increase the print speed?
      Never heard of that.
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      • craigster
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        Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

        FAKE NEWS

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        • bsm2
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          Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

          Could be USA market is usually the last to hear about anything new from Kyocera
          I remember when they came out with Falcon 3 Kyocera rep want to be on first install
          when I called him to tell we had one, he ask how did we get the machine as they were
          still not released in the USA. We got it from a Canada dealer.

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          • SalesServiceGuy
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            Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

            Originally posted by craigster
            FAKE NEWS

            I have some solid information from outside of the copier technician world.

            The responses so far indicate to me that there has been no technical bulletins published yet which implies to me no product launch in at least the next three months. With COVID-19, probably no earlier than Sept.
            Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 04-15-2020, 03:05 AM.

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              I am fairly confident that a combination of the move from HDD to SSD drives and the speed licensing of copiers is the future of copiers within 8-18 months.

              Konica Minolta has already introduced SSDs in their current iSeries copiers. Customers seem to accept this technology without any concerns.

              There are, of course, some technical limitations.

              For example, the fuser on a 25 cpm may not be the same as on a 50 cpm copier but if a manufacturer was able to reduce its product line from a 25, 30, 35, 45 & 50 cpm copier range (5 boxes) to only two boxes one at 25/30 and one 35/45/50 range with speed licenses think of the savings!

              The speed license would likely come in a separate envelope with a sticker to attach for the model number.
              Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 04-15-2020, 02:19 PM.

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              • diedux
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                Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

                I'm adding Elatec card reader when configuring card authentication on devices. Not long ago they introduced licences to upgrade how many different card types this reader can recognize. Instead of three, now they can manufacture one reader type and upgrade it with a licence card.


                This "speed licences" would be fairly easy to implement.

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                • Tonerkiller
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                  Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

                  All you have to do is cut the gray wire.

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                  • tmaged
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                    Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

                    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                    I am fairly confident that a combination of the move from HDD to SSD drives and the speed licensing of copiers is the future of copiers within 8-18 months.

                    Konica Minolta has already introduced SSDs in their current iSeries copiers. Customers seem to accept this technology without any concerns.

                    There are, of course, some technical limitations.

                    For example, the fuser on a 25 cpm may not be the same as on a 50 cpm copier but if a manufacturer was able to reduce its product line from a 25, 30, 35, 45 & 50 cpm copier range (5 boxes) to only two boxes one at 25/30 and one 35/45/50 range with speed licenses think of the savings!

                    The speed license would likely come in a separate envelope with a sticker to attach for the model number.
                    This is how it has been for a while. The segments all run at the same speed, only changing the paper feed timing to run at the rated speed.
                    They're also using SSD's for page memory, fax memory etc.
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                    • tsbservice
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                      It's not problem at all and now. All depends on manifacturer's strategy. I think they now coded FW and some hard boards for example to make bizhub C250i to C360i for example.
                      This can be done via dedicated licence instead. I don't see what is the difference.
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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        It's not problem at all and now. All depends on manifacturer's strategy. I think they now coded FW and some hard boards for example to make bizhub C250i to C360i for example.
                        This can be done via dedicated licence instead. I don't see what is the difference.
                        I understand in the background at the manufacturers level there is little technical difference between the boxes.

                        Nevertheless, when you order a BizHub C250i, it comes in a box that says C250i on it. If you order a C360i it comes in a different box that days C360i on it. You cannot upgrade a C250i to a C360i.

                        Would it not be more economic for a dealer to order one box and order the speed license he wants for it?

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          Originally posted by tmaged
                          This is how it has been for a while. The segments all run at the same speed, only changing the paper feed timing to run at the rated speed.
                          They're also using SSD's for page memory, fax memory etc.
                          I do not know the particulars of every manufacturer but some manufactures run their operating systems primarily from the HDD of the copier and not RAM.

                          I think to-date SSD's have been used in low MB and not GB requirements.

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                          • tsbservice
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                            Re: New Kyocera MFPs with speed licenses

                            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                            I understand in the background at the manufacturers level there is little technical difference between the boxes.

                            Nevertheless, when you order a BizHub C250i, it comes in a box that says C250i on it. If you order a C360i it comes in a different box that days C360i on it. You cannot upgrade a C250i to a C360i.

                            Would it not be more economic for a dealer to order one box and order the speed license he wants for it?
                            I see your point in dealers storing ie. 4 Cxxxi instead of one C250i plus one C300i plus two C360i but nothing revolutionary.
                            That said I'm a tech not a salesman and being focused on drilling down machines onto logical pieces made by hardware and software so my visionary outside tech aspects is quite limited...I know it's my bad...just can't.
                            However good salesman impels things ahead so you can be quite right in long terms...
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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              Often to get best price, dealers are forced to order like 12 copiers at one time. They try and guess what their future requirements will be. It is not uncommon that they get the mix of 25, 30, 35, 45 and 50 cpm wrong. Their sales people sell a different mix of speeds and sell out of 35 cpms first. Now the dealer has to re-order 35 cpms at a higher cost.

                              Would it not be easier to just order 12 boxes at best price and not worry about getting the inventory just right?

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