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  • BillyCarpenter
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    TA-3551 Time for maintenance Tray 1

    Time for maintenance at Tray 1.


    This message is at the bottom of the screen. I replaced all the feed tires at Tray 1 and cleared the counter @ U901. This didn't get rid of the message. What am I missing?
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  • Necrocannibal
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    Re: TA-3551 Time for maintenance Tray 1

    251 is the simulation for maintenance counts.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Originally posted by Necrocannibal
      251 is the simulation for maintenance counts.

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      Thank you. That's what I was thinking. In the service manual for TA-3551, U251 doesn't show the option for setting the count for any of the trays but in the manual for the TA-3501 U251 does show the option for all of the trays.

      I don't have a 3551 here at the shop so I can't check it out. Thanks again.
      Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 12-23-2020, 12:48 AM.
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      • Necrocannibal
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        Re: TA-3551 Time for maintenance Tray 1

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Thank you. That's what I was thinking. In the service manual for TA-3551, U251 doesn't show the option for setting the count for any of the trays but in the manual for the TA-3501 U251 does show the option for all of the trays.

        I don't have a 3551 here at the shop can I can't check it out. Thanks again.
        You're welcome, I haven't looked at that particular machine's 251 in a while but that is where you usually do it so I'm sure it's the same.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Re: TA-3551 Time for maintenance Tray 1

          Perhaps Kyocera made a mistake in the manual? I don't know but I can't find it anywhere else. See images below for U251 for both 3551 & 3501.


          3551 tray 1.JPG 3501 tray 1.JPG
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          • Necrocannibal
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            I guess it's possible, it wouldn't be the first time. 251 is always where I've gone to reset those, I can look at our machine at work tomorrow morning just to see because I'm curious now.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              This is kind of a guess here, but in the 3551ci manual, it shows no way to reset the maintenance counter for Tray 1 using U251. Or any tray. However, under U250 the preset value is 150k for every tray. I suppose each time a feed assembly is rebuilt that you kick the preset value up by 150k. Thus, the "time for tray 1 maintenance" won't be displayed again for another 150k. I'll find out tomorrow.
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              • Necrocannibal
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                Re: TA-3551 Time for maintenance Tray 1

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                This is kind of a guess here, but in the 3551ci manual, it shows no way to reset the maintenance counter for Tray 1 using U251. Or any tray. However, under U250 the preset value is 150k for every tray. I suppose each time a feed assembly is rebuilt that you kick the preset value up by 150k. Thus, the "time for tray 1 maintenance" won't be displayed again for another 150k. I'll find out tomorrow.
                Well 250 is to set the cycle, not reset the count. I am really thinking it is just a screw up when printing the manual but I'll be at work in about an hour and will be able to look at one just just see for myself.

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                • Necrocannibal
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                  This is a pic of 251 on a 3551ci at our shop, like I said it must be a screw up when printing the manual.

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                  • BillyCarpenter
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                    Originally posted by Necrocannibal
                    Well 250 is to set the cycle, not reset the count. I am really thinking it is just a screw up when printing the manual but I'll be at work in about an hour and will be able to look at one just just see for myself.

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                    You are correct, they did make a mistake in the manual. I found another 3551ci manual and under U251 it shows all the cassettes. Thanks for your help.
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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Originally posted by Necrocannibal
                      This is a pic of 251 on a 3551ci at our shop, like I said it must be a screw up when printing the manual.

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                      Thanks for your help. How long have you been working on Kyoceras and what's your opinion on them?
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                      • Necrocannibal
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                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        Thanks for your help. How long have you been working on Kyoceras and what's your opinion on them?
                        I've been working on them for 30 years, back when they were Mita not Kyocera. My opinion is they are the easiest of the brands to work on, but I might be a little biased since I have so much experience on them. They are overall a great brand and don't really have a lot of issues, even though I'm having a weird black lime issue on a 7002i, other than that the 250, 300, 400 and 500 machines were total garbage but the rest are pretty good machines.

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                        • mga
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                          Hope this helps
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                            Originally posted by mga
                            Hope this helps

                            You're always helpful, mga. Thank you.

                            Now I have a confession to make. There was no mistake in the 3551 service manual. It was an "operator" error and the operator was me.


                            I mislabeled the file for the 3551 service manual. I was actually looking at a 3550 manual. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
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                            • tsbservice
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                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              You're always helpful, mga. Thank you.

                              Now I have a confession to make. There was no mistake in the 3551 service manual. It was an "operator" error and the operator was me.


                              I mislabeled the file for the 3551 service manual. I was actually looking at a 3550 manual. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
                              😆 Billy perhaps your head is starting to fill up with all new fancy network stuff you're learning atm virtually leaving no room for old copier stuff.
                              Also I have to admit you have balls dude
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