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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

    Originally posted by tsbservice
    Interesting thread. I have no problems reading Toshiba and KonMin manuals but I'm surprised to hear Kyo has so many misleading and confusing parts in their manuals. For sure the copier god(aka blackcat) advise will work but imho that disarrangement is a shame for such a good brand.

    I think that I agree with blackcat in that different engineers write the different sections in the manual and they aren't consulting with each other. Its just like blackcat explained. You have one name in U031. Another name in "electrical parts layout", and another in the parts manual.

    To me, I find it easier to do what I'm doing and to physically trace down the individual sensors by the name in U031 and just take some detailed notes. That way I can refer back to them as needed without all the confusion.
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    • tsbservice
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      #32
      Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      I think that I agree with blackcat in that different engineers write the different sections in the manual and they aren't consulting with each other. Its just like blackcat explained. You have one name in U031. Another name in "electrical parts layout", and another in the parts manual.


      To me, I find it easier to do what I'm doing and to physically trace down the individual sensors by the name in U031 and just take some detailed notes. That way I can refer back to them as needed without all the confusion.
      The good thing is once one is trained on only one color A3 model sensors anything different is similar
      It really doesn't matter on model most of the time but the options installed.
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        #33
        Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

        Originally posted by tsbservice
        The good thing is once one is trained on only one color A3 model sensors anything different is similar
        It really doesn't matter on model most of the time but the options installed.
        As the Fonz would say: correctamundo.


        In this line of work, one can never know too much so I don't mind putting in the work.
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        • tsbservice
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          #34
          Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          As the Fonz would say: correctamundo.


          In this line of work, one can never know too much so I don't mind putting in the work.
          Perfectamundo
          i also like doing my best to prepare for the worst
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            #35
            Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

            Here's 11 of 14. This is DU1 sensor. Located in the upper part of the duplex unit. Can't really see it without some disassembly. However, you can toggle the sensor by running a folded piece of paper in the upper part of the unit. You must close the side door after inserting paper.


            See picture:



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            • bsm2
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              #36
              Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

              Oh Boy a paper sensor
              Please locate all the Fans and boards next please

              1st day in classes

              MAYBE you can learn how to cheat an interlock switch next

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                Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                Originally posted by bsm2
                Oh Boy a paper sensor
                Please locate all the Fans and boards next please

                1st day in classes

                If you'll pay attention, I've already gone thru all the fans and noted that when executing U037/All fans that all fans will come on except for the Main PWB fan. This is for the 3552ci. Please make a note of this in your service manual.


                PS - Please note that Kyocera classes are an introduction to servicing the machines. The real class is out in the real world.
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                • bsm2
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                  #38
                  Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  If you'll pay attention, I've already gone thru all the fans and noted that when executing U037/All fans that all fans will come on except for the Main PWB fan. This is for the 3552ci. Please make a note of this in your service manual.


                  PS - Please note that Kyocera classes are an introduction to servicing the machines. The real class is out in the real world.
                  Don't forget the boards Rookie
                  Tell us the maintenance schedule next and sims that need to be reset.

                  HOW do you submit a warranty claim form? And the paperwork.
                  What's the hotline number?
                  Who's your regional Kyocera technical rep?

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                    Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                    Originally posted by bsm2
                    Don't forget the boards Rookie
                    Tell the maintenance schedule next
                    Please go away. Stop mucking thie thread up. This isn't the political forum. Shoooo.
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                    • bsm2
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                      #40
                      Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      Please go away. Stop mucking thie thread up. This isn't the political forum. Shoooo.
                      Your doing a fine job of screwing it up

                      The tech already got his answer but you continue your need for attention at a rookie basic level technician

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Don't forget the boards Rookie
                        Tell us the maintenance schedule next and sims that need to be reset.

                        HOW do you submit a warranty claim form? And the paperwork.
                        What's the hotline number?
                        Who's your regional Kyocera technical rep?

                        Dude, I know what codes need to be reset for every maintenance item off the top of my head. I also have it on WorkFlow via USB - U952...if you even know what that is.


                        And when did I go to work for you and have to explain myself? You need to worry about your own affairs. I'm holding it down on my end. Good day.
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                        • bsm2
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                          #42
                          Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          Dude, I know what codes need to be reset for every maintenance item off the top of my head. I also have it on WorkFlow via USB - U952...if you even know what that is.


                          And when did I go to work for you and have to explain myself? You need to worry about your own affairs. I'm holding it down on my end. Good day.
                          Apparently switch's and paper path and the copy process you seem to have trouble with based on your posts.
                          Forgot print drivers also

                          Good Day yes it is

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                            Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                            After tracking down all the switch names in U031 to the corresponding sensor, I discovered there's one page in the service manual that shows a diagram of the entire machine along with all sensor names labeled correctly as it relates to U031. This is true on the 2 and 3 series machines, too.


                            The page is Paper misfeed detection condition. Page 1-4-3 for the 3551ci.I've looked at this page before but never noticed the sensor names. Then again, that was before I discovered the problem with the different names for the sensors throughout the manual. Anyway, this makes it MUCH easier.
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                            • subaro
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                              #44
                              Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              After tracking down all the switch names in U031 to the corresponding sensor, I discovered there's one page in the service manual that shows a diagram of the entire machine along with all sensor names labeled correctly as it relates to U031. This is true on the 2 and 3 series machines, too.


                              The page is Paper misfeed detection condition. Page 1-4-3 for the 3551ci.I've looked at this page before but never noticed the sensor names. Then again, that was before I discovered the problem with the different names for the sensors throughout the manual. Anyway, this makes it MUCH easier.



                              kyocera service manuals are for the most part easy to use and find parts ect. A quick way to narrow down your search is to use the search function from the pdf file, with key words. It will bring up all the related parts and association and you have to use your wits to narrow down your search further. Sometimes the parts manual would be helpfull in finding things more quickly. Sensors, motors and switches are well defined and the locations are outlined clearly. You have to be familar on how to navigate the manual as with every brand.
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                                Re: Kyocera 7052ci jam that won't clear. Exit Feed switch?

                                Originally posted by subaro
                                kyocera service manuals are for the most part easy to use and find parts ect. A quick way to narrow down your search is to use the search function from the pdf file, with key words. It will bring up all the related parts and association and you have to use your wits to narrow down your search further. Sometimes the parts manual would be helpfull in finding things more quickly. Sensors, motors and switches are well defined and the locations are outlined clearly. You have to be familar on how to navigate the manual as with every brand.

                                I'm going to have to disagree. A stated in this thread by multiple users, the same sensor will have up to 3 different names thus making it harder than need be to locate said sensor.
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