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  • frodo
    Technician
    • Aug 2009
    • 36

    #1

    KM-C3225E (Almost) Blank Pages

    I have a KM-C3225E which has had the developers, drums, transfer belt, fuser unit and laser unit removed. All units were vacuumed and replaced back into the machine correctly.

    However, the machine is now giving almost blank prints. The attached PDF is a printer status page. You can see the coloured header broken up across the top of the page. So I'm wondering what the cause of this fault is. I've done the following.

    - Checked transfer belt positioning (seems to be located correctly)
    - Checked all drum and developer units are locked in correctly (they are)
    - Checked there is drive to all drums and developers (appears to be)
    - Checked the transfer belt has drive (it does, and must do to get some image)
    - Swapped the transfer belt with a 2nd hand unit (no change)
    - Swapped the black drum with a 2nd hand unit (no change)
    - Swapped the black developer unit with a 2nd hand unit (no change)
    - Inspected the laser unit (all seems fine)
    - Ran a laser clean, dev refresh and drum refresh (no difference)

    If you look closely at the PDF you will also notice black background (looks like another faulty part ) but also - in my opinion - proves that the image on the drums is being transferred to the belt correctly. In theory this only leaves me with the charge rollers, developers, laser unit or electrical components.

    Any ideas???
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  • Frits
    Technician
    • Jun 2009
    • 62

    #2
    HV 2 board for transportbelt

    Change de HV-2 board for de transferbelt

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    • banginbishop
      grumpy old git

      500+ Posts
      • Oct 2007
      • 894

      #3
      before throwing parts at it. was it working before it was taken apart? if so then its normally something you done yourself (we have all done it). have you tried individuall colours. the chances of it being all four drums/devs are remote so try b,c,m,y. you can stop the m/c and see if the image has appeared on the belt. My guess would be the laser unit as it looks like its out of sync. Did you open up the laser unit and clean it?
      Incontinentia Buttocks

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

        Site Contributor
        10,000+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 23008

        #4
        The first thing that I would do is go to simulation 089, Gray, then print out a ledger page of cyan, magenta, yellow, and black. Any further opinions will be based on those prints.

        If it's only the black that is the problem, it is common for the black rear developer seals to leak, making the black developing unit hard to turn. I'm just speculating though. Let's see those 089 prints. =^..^=
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • frodo
          Technician
          • Aug 2009
          • 36

          #5
          Originally posted by Frits
          Change de HV-2 board for de transferbelt
          Probably my next thing to try.

          Originally posted by banginbishop
          before throwing parts at it. was it working before it was taken apart? if so then its normally something you done yourself (we have all done it). have you tried individuall colours. the chances of it being all four drums/devs are remote so try b,c,m,y. you can stop the m/c and see if the image has appeared on the belt. My guess would be the laser unit as it looks like its out of sync. Did you open up the laser unit and clean it?
          Yeah it was working beforehand. I am thinking it might be toner on a board causing issues. I didn't strip the laser unit apart and the image on the belt is the same as the image on the pages.

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          The first thing that I would do is go to simulation 089, Gray, then print out a ledger page of cyan, magenta, yellow, and black. Any further opinions will be based on those prints.

          If it's only the black that is the problem, it is common for the black rear developer seals to leak, making the black developing unit hard to turn. I'm just speculating though. Let's see those 089 prints. =^..^=
          089 half tones are all totally blank. I'm going to try a colour belt right now but considering sky shots are also blank I doubt I'll get anything.

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 23008

            #6
            If it is something that you did, I doubt that you did anything to the laser. Take a look at the spring loaded transfer terminals that contact the transfer belt assembly. In fumbling with the transfer belt assembly I have knocked out the black transfer contact. I knew that I did it, so there was no need to make copies/prints. It just involved removing the transfer HVT to reinstall the spring (kicking myself the whole time...).

            Let us know what you find. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • randula7
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Nov 2007
              • 73

              #7
              if the image has appeared on the belt
              Open the left cover and see transfer roller unit front and rear transfer springs must be
              firmly mounted on the holder and check connection between machine and transfer roller unit my think its not connecting when you close left cover.

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              • Morlock49
                Trusted Tech
                100+ Posts
                • Mar 2009
                • 166

                #8
                is the image on the transfer belt light, if so check the earth contact for the transfer belt. I had one with light output and it came down to the fact that I had pushed the earth contact out of place when refitting the transfer belt, apparently it is common to do this with the Black earth contact.
                Sorry folks, reputation removed by Just Manuals, because he's a sad little wanker

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                • frodo
                  Technician
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 36

                  #9
                  Sorry guys been meaning to reply back for a while, after letting another tech look at it he discovered the LSU cleaners were driving and covering the slit glass
                  therefore the laser was looking through the blades, just a simple clean and reposition of the clutch fixed the problem, then a u410 to fix the fact the it had tried
                  to calibrate with that fault.

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                  • n25an
                    Service Manager

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1030

                    #10
                    try this... open the front cover... take out all the toners.... take the developer cover open that allows developer to get toner... do this for each developer... then leave cover open and trip the close cover sensor... watch and see which developer is not working... the developer thats not working is giving you the issue... had the same problem recently... this trick enabled me to pin down the bad developer
                    Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
                    I do this stuff on the weekends too

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