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  • shomyx
    Technician
    • Nov 2007
    • 36
    #1

    kyocera mita dc1205/triumh adler ta2212

    I need Help with this device. I found that is the same device but different name. I need to change developer and toner but I don't know how. Is there some procedure like on Minolta devices like fusser and combination of service entries, or just put and go? I clean all mirrors, change OPC cleaner blade (OPC seems OK), change OPC waste cleaner blade, clean corona wires on OPC unit and transfer unit but still I have weak copy.

    Please Help! If someone have SM for this for free that will be great, guidance will be OK.

    P.S. Sorry for my bad English (it is all from movies)
    Tags: adler, between, brush, dealing, degrees, difficulties, exposure, front cover, google, indicate, irratic, kyocera, leave, mita, off, pins, question, rotated, row, ta2212, transfer unit, value, variable
    • Kevin57
      Technician
      • Jul 2007
      • 18
      #2
      Hi!
      You need to change the developer and set it up fpr new developer. After replacing the developer, cheat the front door interlock. Turn off the power. Hold down the print and exposure buttons(not sure which 2 buttons, it's been awhile) and you will get flashing "00"'s in the display. input 60, press print. On the side of the dev. unit is a small pot. to adj. dev. Adj. until the LED's on the exposure display are centered and stay there. Shut down the power and you should be done. Good lick!

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22927
          #3
          Be gentle with that VR! It's very common for techs to get crazy and twist that VR right off the board. I have replaced several.

          If you cannot get the LED's centered let me know. It could be the toner sensor, or the VR damaged.
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

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              • Jul 2007
              • 22927
              #4
              Can you believe it? I found the manual.

              Key the front door. To enter service mode hold clear/stop and print while powering ON. Using the + keys increment up to simulation 60, press print to start. Adjust the toner control VR on the front of the developing unit to center the LEDs on the exposure indicator. Press clear/stop to stop. Power Off/On to exit simulation mode.

              If you cannot center the LEDs. Developer must be new. Clean the toner sensor surface. Check the doctor blade is set to 1.05mm, and mag brush to 18mm. Leave the toner hopper and front cover off of the developing unit. Remove the back cover. Run simulation 60 for several minutes to completely stir the developer.

              If LED's show 1) Always Light, 2) Always Dark, 3) Irratic

              While running simulation 60, meter pin 3 of the developing unit plug to ground from the back of the copier (center pin, top row). This is the toner sensor output. Ideal value is 2.7VDC. Acceptable range is 2.5 to 2.9VDC. If it is not, adjust the VR within the toner sensor accordingly, or replace the toner sensor. A problem with the toner sensor is usually seen as 1) Always Light condition and readings from 3.0 to 4.5VDC.

              With 2) Always Dark or 3) Irratic, stop simulation 60. Remove the developing unit from the copier. Meter pins 5 to 10 on the 20Kohm range (the two pins to the far right as viewed from the back), while turning the developer setting VR. Readings should range from 0 to 4500 ohms. Readings of 4500 unchanging, or irratic indicate a faulty developer setting VR. Replace the VR with Mita part # 73928070 Toner Density VR PCB (or Radio Shack part # 271-280, PCB Mount 1Kohm Potentiometer). New developer sets correctly around 700 ohms on the VR.

              This procedure works on the Mita DC1205/1255. The only difference between that and the Mita DC1415/1435 is that the mag brush setting is 20mm, and the developing unit plug is rotated 180 degrees.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • shomyx
                  Technician
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 36
                  #5
                  OK! I will try, but what is VR?

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                    • kyoceradude
                      The Great Gazoo

                      250+ Posts
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 442
                      #6
                      Originally posted by shomyx
                      OK! I will try, but what is VR?
                      It's nice to try to help someone. But this is the response you get when your not dealing with a tech. My suggestion to "shomyx" is to call a service technician. There are alot of things that you can screw up by not knowing what you are doing. Hopefully you can find one old enough to work on your machine.
                      My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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                        • 10871087
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1143
                          #7
                          Originally posted by kyoceradude
                          It's nice to try to help someone. But this is the response you get when your not dealing with a tech. My suggestion to "shomyx" is to call a service technician. There are alot of things that you can screw up by not knowing what you are doing. Hopefully you can find one old enough to work on your machine.
                          That machine is very old but if it still works for you I would reccommend a real technician. Depending on what market you in you can probably get that old clunker cleaned and lubed for about $100 bucks + Parts.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

                              Site Contributor
                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22927
                              #8
                              I've still got a Mita DC1255 sitting across from me in my office. It works as good as the day I got it 14 some years ago. It will feed just about any size paper from 3 x 5 to 8 1/2 x 17. If you can find a tech old enough to fix it, it will be no big deal.
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                                • shomyx
                                  Technician
                                  • Nov 2007
                                  • 36
                                  #9
                                  Jes! But nobody in my town or nearby work with this device

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                                    • shomyx
                                      Technician
                                      • Nov 2007
                                      • 36
                                      #10
                                      I agree with blackcat4866 and I think that he is god fellow who wonts to help

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                                        • blackcat4866
                                          Master Of The Obvious

                                          Site Contributor
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                                          • Jul 2007
                                          • 22927
                                          #11
                                          Google: potentiometer or variable resistor (VR)
                                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                                            • cadillacdad1
                                              #12
                                              Manual for Mita Copier

                                              I have been searching for the manual for this copier. Is there any possibility you could make a copy for me (depending on the size of the manual of course) and mail it to me. I, too, have been having difficulties with this copier and have been unable to locate a manual, let alone a technician old enough to service it.

                                              I would greatly appreciate it and would be happy to reimburse any copy costs incurrred.

                                              Thank you.

                                              James Saulnier
                                              26699 Oakmont Avenue
                                              Sun City, CA 92586

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                                                • blackcat4866
                                                  Master Of The Obvious

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                                                  10,000+ Posts
                                                  • Jul 2007
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                                                  #13
                                                  It's not as convenient as you might think. 20 year old manuals are printed on 1/2 ream of paper. I'll see if I can get it all scanned.

                                                  You know, manuals are not necessarily all that helpful. Especially Mita manuals have next-to-nothing in the way of troubleshooting. If you have a specific question please just ask.
                                                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                                                    • blackcat4866
                                                      Master Of The Obvious

                                                      Site Contributor
                                                      10,000+ Posts
                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                      • 22927
                                                      #14
                                                      Try this. When you're ready for some real help just ask.
                                                      Last edited by blackcat4866; 12-27-2007, 04:53 PM. Reason: Attachment didn't attach the first time
                                                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                                                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                                                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                                                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                                                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                                                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                                                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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