KM 4050 Add Toner

[Zackuth]

It would be toward you straight, it won't go down. And remember the new gear set up is only for a .3mm drop, so pull with that number in mind.

[e007]

I had the same problem several times. Take the toner container out , shake it "be careful" then rotate the gears on the toner in right direction. Look on the machine which direction is right. Run the toner replenishing function in service mode.

[Ferdy]

Hi e007,

Will this work even though the toner is for a 4050 and not for the 4050i (iKon version)?

Thank you!

[e007]

I do not now, if it works with "ikon" version. And I am not familiar with Copystar brand.

[shep]

if you look at the drive and the toner container you can see if there the same, the ikon version will have 3 prongs and the kyocera/copystar will have 2, the ikon version toner will have 3 slits to accept the drive gear and kyocera/copystar will have 4 slits. hope this helps.

[monstott2010]

Just a thought, check the toner solenoid operation in maint. mode. If you don't hear it click, it has failed and needs to be replaced... may have to try it multiple times... I had a machine that would say it needed toner, new toner installed... would also continually image cycle... would sometimes stop and work for a while, then start again.. had an intermittant problem with the toner solenoid.. once replaced, problem went away for good!!

[Ferdy]

What we decided to do was drill the gear that fits into the coupler (3mm) so that the KM-4050i toner fits as a KM-4050. We've done this two times now and both have worked perfectly (so far).

Thanks to all for your help and support...we very much appreciate it!


Bill

[MR Bill]

The KM 4050i is the Ikon version. It takes the TK-719 toner cartridge.

The KM-4050 ( non i ) takes the TK-717 toner cartridge.

The gears on the back of the cartridge are not the same. Toner add gear is not the same. So you need to either install another gear or try to modifiy the toner cartridge gear somehow. I have installed the gear to convert the i version to take the normal Kyocera cartridge TK-717. It is a big job. But the TK-717 toner cartridge is about $20 cheaper than the TK-719 cartridge.

To change the toner add gear you need to remove the Main board assy. Take back cover off, then about 6 screws to remove main board assy. About 40 connecters. Pain in the butt. Good luck if you do this. Connector to the laser is easy to unplug if you are not careful.

[chrisban35]

The KM 4050i is the Ikon version. It takes the TK-719 toner cartridge.

The KM-4050 ( non i ) takes the TK-717 toner cartridge.

The gears on the back of the cartridge are not the same. Toner add gear is not the same. So you need to either install another gear or try to modifiy the toner cartridge gear somehow. I have installed the gear to convert the i version to take the normal Kyocera cartridge TK-717. It is a big job. But the TK-717 toner cartridge is about $20 cheaper than the TK-719 cartridge.

To change the toner add gear you need to remove the Main board assy. Take back cover off, then about 6 screws to remove main board assy. About 40 connecters. Pain in the butt. Good luck if you do this. Connector to the laser is easy to unplug if you are not careful.

But will the TK-719 fit without any adaptations? Or does the TK-719 require the same gear adaptations? Or does this only apply if you want to put the original TK-717 in the machine?

Please explain with greater detail.

Thanks..

[MR Bill]

The TK-719 toner is the toner that fits the i version. You don't have to do anything. Just install the TK-719 toner cartridge and it will tone up. No problem.
You just change out the toner add gear if you want to use the TK-717.