The TA 8000i fuser problems

[JSC]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

So son, but not only have I seen the jig, I used it on several machine to correct the problem. How would you know the correct position to unwarp the fuser. I have no reason to lie to anyone. It is an aluminum milled block that fits into the frame and correctly aligns the fuser. It is not an alien,,it really does exist.

You are correct there is a jig, but the bulletin I'm talking about is showing you how to carry out the adjustment without the jig as it is so hard to get hold of.

[toner head]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

I am sorry to be snippy about the jig.8000i jig.jpgYes , the jig is very hard to get a hold of. I had heard of it for several months, and it has been revised twice so far as I know. Past bulletins talk of putting a spacer on the front rear frame, but that didn't solve all my problems. Kyocera is working on the issue, so the best you can do, is adjust and pray. I had several machines that burned through a few fusers and there is not a lot to say to customers when THAT happens.

[JSC]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

I am sorry to be snippy about the jig.[ATTACH=CONFIG]17241[/ATTACH]Yes , the jig is very hard to get a hold of. I had heard of it for several months, and it has been revised twice so far as I know. Past bulletins talk of putting a spacer on the front rear frame, but that didn't solve all my problems. Kyocera is working on the issue, so the best you can do, is adjust and pray. I had several machines that burned through a few fusers and there is not a lot to say to customers when THAT happens.

True. Kyocera have cocked up big time with this.

[egpatl]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

So son, but not only have I seen the jig, I used it on several machine to correct the problem. How would you know the correct position to unwarp the fuser. I have no reason to lie to anyone. It is an aluminum milled block that fits into the frame and correctly aligns the fuser. It is not an alien,,it really does exist.

hey i was looking at your post, do you have a part number for this jig ? thanks

[habik]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

Our First Ever 8000MF (8000i) had first call for fuser unit at 300k PM OKAY .. it was hard to get hold of fuser for some ? reason. So we reset the counter and let the machine to kick the hips out ouf the fuser. Guess what 680k before it went "I am kneckered, get me out of here" .SO the initial fuser were OK I think, the second lot was going APE walk and since the introduction of the Jig ( which meant to be implied within factory, few series not sure which Serial Numbers :O( ) I have changed already about 5 fusers per machine Our client is going absolutely ballistic.

Either Way the Belt is not such a issue as the position of the fuser it self, the seating and mainly the contact fuser roller has a grove and the bushing has a boss. If there is a case the grove overslips it gets a wave on the belt and sudden trash of the fuser belt. So Good Luck Mr Kyocera! About time to get it right!

[Lynn56]

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I have this jig for realigning the fuser unit but the belt is still moving all the way to the back and will still damage the belt over time. I have replaced four of the fuser unit in the last two weeks. Call tech support and they told me to contact my service rep. as of yet have not heard back. May have to escalate it to find an answer.

[habik]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

I have this jig for realigning the fuser unit but the belt is still moving all the way to the back and will still damage the belt over time. I have replaced four of the fuser unit in the last two weeks. Call tech support and they told me to contact my service rep. as of yet have not heard back. May have to escalate it to find an answer.

Have you checked the bearings? Problem is there I believe.

[Lynn56]

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The machines have only been in the field for less than a month and one has less than 20,000 copies on it so is hard to believe that they would have a bearing problem yet.

[habik]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

The machines have only been in the field for less than a month and one has less than 20,000 copies on it so is hard to believe that they would have a bearing problem yet.

Is it rippling/curling when you rotate the belt? little lumps of side wave

That is one of the signs.

[Lynn56]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

I have not noticed anything like that but have not turned the belt much when I had it out.

[Geo]

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Kyocera is up to series ...6.... of the fuser assembly.....Oh joy.... Something to keep in mind...They may be shipping new fusers , but the old series may still be the maintenance kits.

[Lynn56]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

Kyocera is up to series ...6.... of the fuser assembly.....Oh joy.... Something to keep in mind...They may be shipping new fusers , but the old series may still be the maintenance kits.

That's great....job security I guess!

[Geo]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

Six revisions in as many months....That is nuts!!

[just a tech]

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The Jigs are supposed to be coming available for order from the National Parts Center sometime in early February.. They do not have a part# for them yet.. If you want one before they are available, they say you have to contact your Regional Service Rep and request one..

They are blaming most of their issues on bearing shift and belt shift due to mis-adjustment of the fuser mounting plate.. Either way, it still sucks..
Here is the bulletin on the Jig and its adjustment procedure ( I had to delete the page with the video showing installation procedure due to file size too large) :

[kyrenecopy]

Re: The TA 8000i fuser problems

We installed over 25 of the 8000i's at one customer and within weeks, 16 of the fusers died. We got a jig, some new fusers and started jigging the machines, even had the KYo rep come out. Since then they seem to be running fine. A couple of points: there is a new/latest bulletin out along with the video. If you have the jig don't use the screw that comes with it. Done right I think it will help a great deal. Good luck all.