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  • habik
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    • Apr 2010
    • 2015
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    Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

    Was trying to find a thread where I don't hijack anyone elses problem and here we go J34


    I have more and more issues with J34 and J32 all in registration. All machines have modification in feed sections a.e springs, new type rollers and separation mylars. As I have quite a few machines with this issue I decided to have in office one machine that is solely for eliminating j34 and j32.. meaning I use the reg units from failing machines in this dedicated to check if its reg. unit problem or more than that. As the dedicated machine had a overhaul, and I am confident in it, than it has to be the registration unit.

    As I have not got any spare NEW reg motor or reg-feed motors my question is ..has anyone changed these yet? I hardly ever had a step motor to fail. When I wiggle the wiring it starts to jam like mad.Ocasionally I hit the right position on wiring and it works. Swapped motors registration with reg-feed where I had to turn the bracket on both motors by 90 degree. Still jamming. Is it the connectors or the actual wiring.. Has anyone had that? Already ordered one set of wires ..2 months to get it in

    Just asking to check if I missed again something.
    .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
    Firmwares HERE
    Tags: cd1080, j32, j34, km6030, km8030
    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious
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      • Jul 2007
      • 22599
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      Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

      It sounds like you've got the problem nailed down. I've never changed a registration motor, but that doesn't mean anything. From what you've said, there is probably a loose wire connection in the body of the motor. Can this motor be disassembled for a better examination? =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • habik
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          • Apr 2010
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          Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          It sounds like you've got the problem nailed down. I've never changed a registration motor, but that doesn't mean anything. From what you've said, there is probably a loose wire connection in the body of the motor. Can this motor be disassembled for a better examination? =^..^=
          I am on it now! Just landed my multi-meter to colleague and he wont be back today


          but I am trying "different" wires from another machine...and if that wont work, then...the HARD WIRE a.e no connectors just straight solder in to the Transfer/Fuser TRAY Assembly Connector ..Bypassing any other connector issue.

          Will keep you posted.

          Thanks BC for prompt response.
          .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
          Firmwares HERE

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            • blackcat4866
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              Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

              Pulse motors as we find them in copiers have three or four magnetic circuits which are "pulsed" at very specific intervals to regulate the motor speed. For three circuits there will be six wires, and for four circuits there will be eight wires. The motors that I have examined all have approximately the same resistance across each circuit. I would attach clip leads and perform the "wiggle" test. If the resistance changes when you tug on the harness you've found the problem.

              Sorry. I misread your initial post. It seems like you've isolated the problem to harness and/or connectors. The most vulnerable of these is the main drawer connector. It would help to bring along a friend to help you meter pins from the duplex PWB (connector YC5) right to the registration motor. I would think that with the imaging unit removed you could pull out the drawer, clip on leads, then close the drawer and read values.

              As long as you're in there, I'd watch for rust dust from the fuser drive pack raining down on the duplex PWB.

              Good Luck! =^..^=
              Last edited by blackcat4866; 05-28-2012, 05:37 PM.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • JustManuals
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 9931
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                  Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

                  This Parts & Service Manual can now be purchased for $12.77 and downloaded immediately after payment from

                  Just Manuals ~ The Internet's largest selection of manuals ~ Instant Downloads


                  Paul@justmanuals.com

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                    • habik
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2015
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                      Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

                      Originally posted by manuals4you
                      This Parts & Service Manual can now be purchased for $12.77 and downloaded immediately after payment from

                      Just Manuals ~ The Internet's largest selection of manuals ~ Instant Downloads


                      Paul@justmanuals.com
                      Paul, which manual do you need service or parts ? Can send you both.
                      .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                      Firmwares HERE

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                        • habik
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                          Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          Pulse motors as we find them in copiers have three or four magnetic circuits which are "pulsed" at very specific intervals to regulate the motor speed. For three circuits there will be six wires, and for four circuits there will be eight wires. The motors that I have examined all have approximately the same resistance across each circuit. I would attach clip leads and perform the "wiggle" test. If the resistance changes when you tug on the harness you've found the problem.

                          Sorry. I misread your initial post. It seems like you've isolated the problem to harness and/or connectors. The most vulnerable of these is the main drawer connector. It would help to bring along a friend to help you meter pins from the duplex PWB (connector YC5) right to the registration motor. I would think that with the imaging unit removed you could pull out the drawer, clip on leads, then close the drawer and read values.

                          As long as you're in there, I'd watch for rust dust from the fuser drive pack raining down on the duplex PWB.

                          Good Luck! =^..^=

                          May well be...now just someone to give me hand. Tomorrow another day. Thanks... I have tried another reg .harness(maybe faulty too) and it is going worse so have to wait for the "hopefully" original fuser/transfer/reg drawer to come back tomorrow. Only then I can say confidently is the REG or THE HARNESS from REG or the harness and connector on drawer.. doubt it would be close to PWB issue as that is hardly touched and the machine done on friday 4k without jam..so ...it must be on the drawer OR within.

                          Sun is shining..going home.
                          .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                          Firmwares HERE

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                            • habik
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              Re: Km6030.8030.cd1060.1080 j32- j34

                              Originally posted by habik
                              May well be...now just someone to give me hand. Tomorrow another day. Thanks... I have tried another reg .harness(maybe faulty too) and it is going worse so have to wait for the "hopefully" original fuser/transfer/reg drawer to come back tomorrow. Only then I can say confidently is the REG or THE HARNESS from REG or the harness and connector on drawer.. doubt it would be close to PWB issue as that is hardly touched and the machine done on friday 4k without jam..so ...it must be on the drawer OR within.

                              Sun is shining..going home.

                              Just wanted to add in case someone need the motor specification in the future Shame only latest models are there Hybryd Stepping Motor Registration specification17PM-K.pdf

                              Hybrid Stepping Motors - Custom-made
                              .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                              Firmwares HERE

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