CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

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  • Itsthepaper
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    • Dec 2007
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    #1

    CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

    Hello,

    I have a CS4050 popping a C2000 stapler motor code, machine has a DF-720. Manual says it's the motor or the engine PWB. Well I removed the DF_720 and still code pops, I'm shooting for the Engine PWB. I have KM4050 in the boneyard pile are the PWB's the same?
    Love the Job Love the Work.
    Tags: locked up
    • blackcat4866
      Master Of The Obvious

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      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2007
      • 23009
      #2
      Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

      Yes, just be sure to swap any removable EEPROMs and Memory chips to the replacement board. =^..^=
      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • Kidaver
          Ghoulscout

          500+ Posts
          • Apr 2011
          • 912
          #3
          Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

          One thing to watch for on this as I grabbed a 4050 board off a 5050 we had come back into the shop. At some point they changed the drive system in these machines and added a clutch to run the developer separately. The old board will not have a connector for this new clutch but the new one will. Imagine how irritated I was getting this other board into a machine and discovering there isn't a connector for this clutch. Came back to the shop and found the bulletin on it.
          "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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            • kkendric
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Apr 2009
              • 301
              #4
              Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

              Has nothing to do with a stapler motor,2000 codes usually deal with the main drive system. Main motor , gears, engine board etc.
              C2000:
              Drive motor problem
              Stable OFF is detected for 1 s continuouslyafter drive motor stability.The drive motor is not stabilized in 6 s
              since the motor is activated.

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                • Techman1000
                  Technician
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 44
                  #5
                  Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

                  Check the drum unit, We have had the cleaning unit inside the drum unit locked up on Taskals 520i, which is almost the same drum unit.

                  When this happens it puts such a atrain on the main motor that the copier will throw a 2000 error code!

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

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                      • Jul 2007
                      • 23009
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                      Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

                      Originally posted by Kidaver
                      One thing to watch for on this as I grabbed a 4050 board off a 5050 we had come back into the shop. At some point they changed the drive system in these machines and added a clutch to run the developer separately. The old board will not have a connector for this new clutch but the new one will. Imagine how irritated I was getting this other board into a machine and discovering there isn't a connector for this clutch. Came back to the shop and found the bulletin on it.
                      Good catch Kidaver. I too have come across this. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • Itsthepaper
                          Supervisor

                          50+ Posts
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 91
                          #7
                          Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

                          Originally posted by kkendric
                          Has nothing to do with a stapler motor,2000 codes usually deal with the main drive system. Main motor , gears, engine board etc.
                          C2000:
                          Drive motor problem
                          Stable OFF is detected for 1 s continuouslyafter drive motor stability.The drive motor is not stabilized in 6 s
                          since the motor is activated.
                          That's what I'm going to try next, I'm not to familiar with KM boxes and when I saw Stapler on the manual I automatically took that route with boards and stapler assembly troubleshooting. I suspected maybe something esle going on and you just confirmed it for me.

                          Thanks I'll follow up later with what I found.
                          Love the Job Love the Work.

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                            • Itsthepaper
                              Supervisor

                              50+ Posts
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 91
                              #8
                              Re: CS4050 & KM4050 are the boards the same? C2000 code

                              Originally posted by Techman1000
                              Check the drum unit, We have had the cleaning unit inside the drum unit locked up on Taskals 520i, which is almost the same drum unit.

                              When this happens it puts such a atrain on the main motor that the copier will throw a 2000 error code!
                              Thanks Techman1000, Drum unit bound up. Swapped drum all is good.

                              Thanks you all for the help!!!
                              Love the Job Love the Work.

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