[Misc] Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

[Crni]

HI all
I am new on forums. I have Kyocera km-5050 and I am using original TK-715 toner for printing.

I was interested is there any good compatible(not original toners) out there that are decent quality?
There are many on the market but I need referral cos I don't want to do damage to my machine or get low quality print.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

Have you ever heard of mottling? Given a little time you will. It's about the consistency of the toner. It's supposed to flow ... Kyocera toner does. Compatible toner does not. It's ironic that you call it "compatible" toner, because most of the time it isn't. =^..^=

[GESPAGE]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

HI all
I am new on forums. I have Kyocera km-5050 and I am using original TK-715 toner for printing.

I was interested is there any good compatible(not original toners) out there that are decent quality?
There are many on the market but I need referral cos I don't want to do damage to my machine or get low quality print.

www.katun.com no problem

[HenryT2]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

HI all

I was interested is there any good compatible(not original toners) out there that are decent quality?

NO !

[Gar the pilot]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

We just got in a Lease-returned 420i that had Katun "Compatable" toner installed and had to replace the drum & dev units to get Great copy. If you want to settle for okayish copy, and associated problems, Katun would be okay. If you want the best operation of the Equipment USE OEM ONLY. We do use compatables on other machines ( mostly the old Duel componet types ) But any Mita Mono-componet=OEM only. The little cost savings on the toner will cost a lot more in increased trouble almost every time.
My 2 cents,
Gar the happy Pilot
good sunny skys this weekend

[MR Bill]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

Simple anwser is do not use compatable toner in you Kyocera.It will cause you problems.

[habik]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

We tried Katun toners in Kyocera machines it was KATUN Performance (so the better option), and also we have then used a lot of PM kits..mainly Fuser pretty much the most expensive part from PM Kit. Funny is that PM Kit from Katun ( Cheaper ) was the best solution to Katun toners...now here comes the shock point. Mottling wasn't occurring as much on Katun Dev units but fusers were going out of window almost every 150k... if drum was good lasted 250k on the odd occasion 280k...so we ended with fuser and drums being replaced .. all the time. Now we have a nice pile of dev unit from Katun PM kits.. lately we had Katun guy poping in asking for a favour... one of his clients got few machines and his devs (OEM) failed to produce good stack (layer) of toner with Katun Performance toner..(Apparently they did not mix well ) So he bartered for some devs in exchange for their "Great" Toner.. so the moral of the story You save few bob on toners and spend few quid on PMkits or parts and petrol and time.

Regards to Katun colour used in Konica which we tried ....we have had few issues with the compound to seize up in toner hopper to rock solid. And if you have any Konicas and thinking of using it, don't be surprised to do this:

To be perfectly honest... for the few quid on a box the hassle usually isn't worth it. But the choice is yours.

Defo stay out of KATUN ACCESS .. you may as well use waste toner.

[Zackuth]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

We tried compatable toners to save money and spent more on develpoer units, drums, and fusers than we saved buying the toner. Went back to OEM and won't ever go that route again.

[User Name]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

I hate reading threads like this because my boss is trying sooo hard to switch over to Katun toners even though I kept telling him we're going to have issues. His test to see how well they would work was to use a compatible toner in his 1135 in his office and once he went through that one toner, he was satisfied that the compatible toners would work. So far all of our machines are using comatible toners except for the large MFPs (3500i-5550ci's). I'm just waiting for the problems to start happening.

[MR Bill]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

I have a friend at another company that uses Katun toner in the KM-3035-4035 series machies. They have to do service calls for spots on the copies sometimes. They go out and clean the drum , toner will stick onto the drum sometimes. Might not do it in one toner cycle but on the next toner it will? He has 100'S of those machines in the field so he saves a lot on toners , he charges on meter clicks on a cost per copy contract. I am not sure why he uses Katun toner really. Save money on the toner but cost more in labor. Does not make a lik of sense to me. Lets see what your boss does when you bring him copies from a bad drum caused by toner.

[Zackuth]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

I hate reading threads like this because my boss is trying sooo hard to switch over to Katun toners even though I kept telling him we're going to have issues. His test to see how well they would work was to use a compatible toner in his 1135 in his office and once he went through that one toner, he was satisfied that the compatible toners would work. So far all of our machines are using comatible toners except for the large MFPs (3500i-5550ci's). I'm just waiting for the problems to start happening.

User, you can tell your boss that I did a cost of parts run down for 4 month of parts we had to replace that we were sure was because of katun toner. I found out we were very near $5000, and we had been using this for a year and a half. That cost did not include time spend in the field changing the parts. Seven to eight monts after we stopped using katun toner, we still had parts we needed to replace. Also, using off brand toner voids warranties, so you cannot sent parts back. If your boss is saving that kind of money by using an off brand toner, I'd let him.

[Donnie]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

We use katun toner in falcon 1,2,3,4. I have long suspected that is why our parts don't last the maint. cycle. One of the main complaints from customers is fuser jams, black fill is not as good as oem. Every time this subject is brought up the sales manager does a profitability report and says we are not losing money. (Profitability is not defined ) The service manager says the same thing. The owner of the company will never switch back because he saves so much initially. I have given up, so I just keep doing calls and replacing parts.

[Crni]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

Guys thank you so much for your answers.
I will stay with original toners as you suggested.

I have a big problem now http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/sh...344#post409344
Hope you make it a small one.

[User Name]

Re: Compatible (not original) Toner TK-715 Kyocera

User, you can tell your boss that I did a cost of parts run down for 4 month of parts we had to replace that we were sure was because of katun toner. I found out we were very near $5000, and we had been using this for a year and a half. That cost did not include time spend in the field changing the parts. Seven to eight monts after we stopped using katun toner, we still had parts we needed to replace. Also, using off brand toner voids warranties, so you cannot sent parts back. If your boss is saving that kind of money by using an off brand toner, I'd let him.

I've given up with trying to convince him to stop the generic nonsense. I still give the snide remark about it now and then but I'm done arguing about it with him. Also, it voids the warranty if Kyocera finds out about it which, oddly enough, they haven't yet.