Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

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  • Crni
    Technician
    • Mar 2014
    • 54

    #1

    Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

    Hi guys,

    My paper feed motor(U030 under FEED) on km5050 is quite loud.
    Any idea why? And advice how to make it less noisy?
    Last edited by Crni; 06-06-2014, 12:43 PM.
  • darry1322
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    • Oct 2010
    • 817

    #2
    Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

    The plastic tab holding the feed drive assembly down breaks and causes the teeth of the drive gears to slip. That's on the LCT feed head assembly.

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    • Crni
      Technician
      • Mar 2014
      • 54

      #3
      Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

      Originally posted by darry1322
      The plastic tab holding the feed drive assembly down breaks and causes the teeth of the drive gears to slip. That's on the LCT feed head assembly.
      Is that a small plastic ring holding the drive in place? Can you please show me the image of plastic tab.
      Is there a way to fix it?

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      • darry1322
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        • Oct 2010
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        #4
        Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

        I don't have a picture of the tab, but if you look at the right-hand feed assembly you will see a small black tab that keeps the metal feed assembly from moving during the drive time. That tab will be broken off from the left side feed assembly. I have used a large paper clip wrapped around the frame and assembly, but the best fix is to replace the plastic housing for the feed head.

        Here is a link : PF-750 with noise - Topic

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        • Kidaver
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          • Apr 2011
          • 912

          #5
          Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

          I know the plastic housing for the feed clutch on the middle feed unit breaks all the time on these models. If that happens you just have to replace that unit. Real easy one connector and it slides right out.
          "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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          • darry1322
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            • Oct 2010
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            #6
            Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

            Originally posted by Kidaver
            I know the plastic housing for the feed clutch on the middle feed unit breaks all the time on these models. If that happens you just have to replace that unit. Real easy one connector and it slides right out.

            Yep. Replaced some of these too. After rereading the original post, this may be a more accurate solution. The broken feed head tab would not make noise when running feed motor in MM 30.

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            • blackcat4866
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              • Jul 2007
              • 23009

              #7
              Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

              If I remember correctly, this all transpired something like this:
              1) Rear transfer roller bushing breaks.
              2) Machine jams.
              3) Enduser attempts to remove jam. Transfer roller drops out into the vertical path.
              4) Enduser does not see the transfer roller, and cannot get the door to latch. Hard slamming, maybe kicking involved.
              5) Top of drive assembly is shattered.

              I can't remember the name of it ... but it's the feed assembly between the MFP tray and the registration assembly (maybe middle feed unit?). =^..^=
              Last edited by blackcat4866; 06-07-2014, 03:26 AM.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • Crni
                Technician
                • Mar 2014
                • 54

                #8
                Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

                I had this machine for 2 months and it works ok despite this sound.
                Now cos I am a newbie it is hard for me to keep up with your tech language .
                I don't know where things are placed in machine. Yes I have service manual but still it is hard to see where everything is.

                I thought this little motor under green circle is what makes the "wowowo" sound, but it is not.
                Rustle sound comes from gears and I don't know should I grease them?
                Sound coming from.jpg

                I also made the video so you can check the sound. "wowowo" sound comes somewhere behind the green circle. Maybe it is a normal thing


                thx guys

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                • blackcat4866
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

                  I think I'd just replace the middle feed clutch (in your green circle). Do not lubricate electromagnetic clutches. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • darry1322
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                    • Oct 2010
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                    Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

                    You might want to check the gears on your MP tray and the pass-thru from MP tray to the middle feed section. You know, the part above tray 1 with the green knob for clearing jams from the MP tray. All those gears turn with the middle feed section.

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                    • Crni
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

                      Phew !! There will be a lot of work around that. BlackCat i meant grease on little gears not the motor.
                      I will check the MP feed all the way then. Summer break = more work lol

                      Thx guys.

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                      • darry1322
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                        • Oct 2010
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                        Re: Kyocera km5050 Paper feed motor is loud

                        Originally posted by Crni
                        Phew !! There will be a lot of work around that. BlackCat i meant grease on little gears not the motor.
                        I will check the MP feed all the way then. Summer break = more work lol

                        Thx guys.

                        The middle feed comes out easily as does the MP tray assembly. You can just pull the MP tray transport deck out enough to check gears and bushings. Shouldn't be much to check at all.

                        If you've got another machine somewhere, you can swap the middle feed in a couple of minutes to test.

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