CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

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  • BHRLC
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Nov 2013
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    #1

    CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

    Can a DV unit from a 400ci be used in a 300ci?
    Not really sure...
  • laitang
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Nov 2012
    • 627

    #2
    Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

    NO!
    cs300ci DV part no: 302JZ93190
    cs400ci DV part no: 302H793170

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    • BHRLC
      Technician

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      • Nov 2013
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      #3
      Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

      Umm, ok... thanks for the enthusiastic answer.

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      • sh1974

        #4
        Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

        change over the chip on the front and it works

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        • BHRLC
          Technician

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          • Nov 2013
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          #5
          Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

          Originally posted by sh1974
          change over the chip on the front and it works
          We have a customer with a 300ci that doesn't want to spend alot of money (a church)
          This would be a better option so I'll run that by the bossman
          Thanks guys

          Edit: How easy, or not, is this to do?
          If it's anything like a 3050ci, then yuck!
          Last edited by BHRLC; 08-14-2014, 02:33 PM.

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          • sh1974

            #6
            Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

            its really easy. unplug cable. and bend two clips holding it in place.

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            • BHRLC
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              #7
              Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

              Originally posted by sh1974
              its really easy. unplug cable. and bend two clips holding it in place.
              Sweet. Might give it a shot then.

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              • BHRLC
                Technician

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                #8
                Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                Originally posted by sh1974
                change over the chip on the front and it works
                I tried that. No go.
                Tried updating the firmware *again*, per Kyocera support and still get a C7401.
                So they locked out the hard coding in the different chips now or??
                I really despise this line. Nothing but problems - toner dots, streaking, smudging, blah blah blah!
                Something's gotta give.

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                • MDR24
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                  • Apr 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                  When you say you're still getting the code does this mean the original Dev (with original chip) gave C7401? If so when you've put the new dev unit in and used the original chip the code will transfer as the chip holds onto the code. So if the Unit codes it kills the chip.

                  I believe the chip holds the model, count and code of the original unit.

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                  • BHRLC
                    Technician

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                    • Nov 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                    Originally posted by MDR24
                    When you say you're still getting the code does this mean the original Dev (with original chip) gave C7401? If so when you've put the new dev unit in and used the original chip the code will transfer as the chip holds onto the code. So if the Unit codes it kills the chip.

                    I believe the chip holds the model, count and code of the original unit.
                    Yes, I put the original chip and DV back in and it produed the code again, after trying the other DV. It didn't before, obviously.
                    I saw another post here saying he tried the same thing I'm doing and got the same result code.

                    I read the bulletin from 02/11/2011 regarding C7xxx codes and I'm getting green in the face with worry about
                    maybe I broke something else during the swap. We've ordered a new DV and it should be here by next Tuesday.
                    Hope it fixes it.

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                    • Trigger
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                      I have had no problems at all swapping devs or drums from a 300ci to a 400ci. I personally think you may have your chips mixed up. As the service manual says: failure to detect dev unit and the solution is either to insert dev unit or replace with a correct unit, sort of says it all.
                      I hope u reach a resolve with this problem as i also know how much of a pain these machines can be.

                      Fingers crossed!

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                      • BHRLC
                        Technician

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                        • Nov 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                        Originally posted by Trigger
                        I have had no problems at all swapping devs or drums from a 300ci to a 400ci. I personally think you may have your chips mixed up. As the service manual says: failure to detect dev unit and the solution is either to insert dev unit or replace with a correct unit, sort of says it all.
                        I hope u reach a resolve with this problem as i also know how much of a pain these machines can be.

                        Fingers crossed!
                        It was DV from 400ci to 300ci.
                        I marked the chips.
                        YMMV.

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                        • BHRLC
                          Technician

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                          #13
                          Re: CS400ci / 300ci DV swap?

                          Went ahead and replaced the DV with a new one.
                          No problems now.

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