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  • nzcowboys
    Technician
    • Jun 2008
    • 12

    #1

    KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

    Hey Guy's,

    Have had three machines produce a 2 inch wide blank area in the center of the page when copying only (internal prints and external print jobs are fine)
    This can be intermittant or a hard fault.

    We know it cannot be anything to do with the engine and must be optical.
    I have read quite a few forums regarding this fault and have noticed the blue film on the center of the mirrors which I am not fully convinced is the whole story.

    Has anybody got to the bottom of this as I have had another machine produce this fault today.

    Any input would be much appreciated.

    Thanks
  • Jimbo1
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2008
    • 845

    #2
    Just the basic facts...can you show me where it hurts?

    Does it happen from the glass, from the feeder or both?
    Need to eleminate something somewhere.
    "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

    Cdr. William Riker

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    • nzcowboys
      Technician
      • Jun 2008
      • 12

      #3
      Happens from both Document feeder and Glass.

      Thanks

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      • banginbishop
        grumpy old git

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2007
        • 894

        #4
        white band


        Incontinentia Buttocks

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        • bsm2
          IT Manager

          25,000+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 29409

          #5
          blank area

          clean mirrors with glass cleaner
          get a film on mirrors you can't see

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          • knightfall
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jul 2006
            • 633

            #6
            I'm thinking that even with a blue haze on the optic there should still be enough light reflected back to the ccd to produce some image even light image but if there is no image a void of image I would think it would have to be the ccd that is causing the problem since you said printing an internal report prints out ok but not from the scanner (copyboard or doc feeder) that is where I would start.
            Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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            • brasilmichaele
              Technician
              • Jul 2008
              • 31

              #7
              Originally posted by knightfall
              I'm thinking that even with a blue haze on the optic there should still be enough light reflected back to the ccd to produce some image even light image but if there is no image a void of image I would think it would have to be the ccd that is causing the problem since you said printing an internal report prints out ok but not from the scanner (copyboard or doc feeder) that is where I would start.
              i would clean all the mirrors with alcohol. i have had the same issue on the km2050 also

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              • brasilmichaele
                Technician
                • Jul 2008
                • 31

                #8
                Originally posted by nzcowboys
                Hey Guy's,

                Have had three machines produce a 2 inch wide blank area in the center of the page when copying only (internal prints and external print jobs are fine)
                This can be intermittant or a hard fault.

                We know it cannot be anything to do with the engine and must be optical.
                I have read quite a few forums regarding this fault and have noticed the blue film on the center of the mirrors which I am not fully convinced is the whole story.

                Has anybody got to the bottom of this as I have had another machine produce this fault today.
                .

                Thanks
                i have had this problem on the km2050. i cleaned the mirrors with alcohol and took care of the issue

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                • tech07
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 409

                  #9
                  Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                  I can almost guarentee you, it's optics/mirrors..you have to clean them very thoroughly

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                  • Jude
                    Trusted Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    250+ Posts
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 256

                    #10
                    Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                    Might want to check your dv unit but most likely optics. Use a flashlight against the mirrors and clean. Use alcohol.

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22934

                      #11
                      Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                      Originally posted by banginbishop
                      I've had the same problem. You do a smc report and this eliminates the engine side and as you say their is a blue haze on the optics. All I’ve done is cleaned it with a glass cleaner and so far so good but I’m possibly thinking it might be ozone but without looking at the machine or the parts manual I don’t know if it has a fan or filter by the upper left side that might need replacing.
                      Originally posted by bsm2
                      clean mirrors with glass cleaner
                      get a film on mirrors you can't see
                      Originally posted by knightfall
                      I'm thinking that even with a blue haze on the optic there should still be enough light reflected back to the ccd to produce some image even light image but if there is no image a void of image I would think it would have to be the ccd that is causing the problem since you said printing an internal report prints out ok but not from the scanner (copyboard or doc feeder) that is where I would start.
                      Originally posted by brasilmichaele
                      i would clean all the mirrors with alcohol. i have had the same issue on the km2050 also
                      Originally posted by tech07
                      I can almost guarentee you, it's optics/mirrors..you have to clean them very thoroughly
                      I'll concur will all these gentlemen and/or ladies. The ozone can get quite dense on the slit glass, mirror3, and mirror2. It's very common on that whole series of machines.

                      I've had success with isolating the area between the fuser and scanner, by taping over holes in the scanner frame, and insulating the area between the left side cover and the scanner frame. The machine I'm thinking of now goes for more than a year between optics cleanings.

                      =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • MR Bill
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 532

                        #12
                        Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                        Yes with blackcat. Also lower the fuser temp about 10 deagrees.

                        This guy posted this over 4 years ago. I bet he fixed it by now??

                        But good info anyway.

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                        • madas
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 313

                          #13
                          Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                          Hi.
                          Make sure you clean "All" the mirrors. we had a tech who missed out the top left mirror and it still looked the same.

                          madas

                          PS just noticed the date lol.

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                          • daveh12
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 157

                            #14
                            Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                            definitely the optics. clean thoroughly the optics and slit glass. problem should go away.

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                            • nmfaxman
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1702

                              #15
                              Re: KM 2550 Blank area in center of Copies only

                              Check the white plate on the glass.
                              If it reads dark where it should read white, all dark is white.
                              Why do they call it common sense?

                              If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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