KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

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  • habik
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    • Apr 2010
    • 2013
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    KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

    Hello

    We still have few machines in field and wanted to ask what is your separation springs setup like. In PM kits we used to get copper coloured sep spring and a PM bulletin to install on near side of the feed units with plus 1 adjustment for Tray 1,3,4 and +2 adjustment for Tray 2.

    I've recently got hold of a bulletin which says to check the number on the top of the feed units and put springs in that position. Usually nr.6 on both sides??

    What is your experience like?

    Thanks


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    • Tonerkiller
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      • Oct 2012
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      #2
      Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

      Put two copper springs on and set the pressure as stated on feed unit. Make sure you clean the one ways.

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        • habik
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          Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

          Originally posted by Tonerkiller
          Put two copper springs on and set the pressure as stated on feed unit. Make sure you clean the one ways.

          I clean one ways every time..

          well the feed unit haws two writings one is on the separation bracket and one is on top of the feed unit (Upper housing warpage rank)..the numbers are different. What I have experienced let say on Tray 2 the Top rank shows 4 and the separation bracket 5. As per the PM bulletin It should be put on 7 (+2) for tray 2. As per the bulletin I got hold of yesterday with conversion tables it should be on 3.

          Confused

          So you say use the settings written in the middle of the bracket between the copper (left) and silver (right) separation spring, right?
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            • Tonerkiller
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              Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

              Yea but we use copper springs on both

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                • blackcat4866
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

                  Originally posted by habik
                  I clean one ways every time..

                  well the feed unit have two writings one is on the separation bracket and one is on top of the feed unit (Upper housing warpage rank)..the numbers are different. What I have experienced let say on Tray 2 the Top rank shows 4 and the separation bracket 5. As per the PM bulletin It should be put on 7 (+2) for tray 2. As per the bulletin I got hold of yesterday with conversion tables it should be on 3. ...
                  This is exactly the way I have always done it. With the copper colored springs in the front position, and the change in separation, per the bulletin, I have had very few problems with rollers not reaching yield. Are you using the updated rollers included in the PM kit? There was a color change a couple of years ago.

                  I confess there has been a lot of confusion about this bulletin, particularly the special setting for tray #2, which had considerable feed problems and uneven wear until the update. Also the mylars can become worn, usually by 1M or the 2nd kit, I change the mylars by the separation. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                    • habik
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2013
                      #6
                      Thanks BlackCat.

                      You are then referring to the PM bulletin. That comes included in each PM kit right?

                      I do use the new tyres

                      These have 55k and I will try them in another machine with the PM bulletin.
                      I've put fresh set with fresh one-ways and shafts and mylar and try the "odd" bulletin I got hold of to see how far it will take me.

                      Just out of curiosity my old problem with J32's was actually the RH side door white pulleys shaft being occasionally stuck. So I am lubing the ends and mids on every machine I see and so far all good. Just wanted to share out


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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

                          Originally posted by habik
                          Thanks BlackCat.

                          ... Just out of curiosity my old problem with J32's was actually the RH side door white pulleys shaft being occasionally stuck. So I am lubing the ends and mids on every machine I see and so far all good. Just wanted to share out


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                          I've never gotten jamming from those vertical idlers, but plenty of screeching. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • Tonerkiller
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                              • Oct 2012
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                              #8
                              Re: KM 6030 deck 1,2 tyres wear out 50k feeds

                              The top vert roller has a oneway that needs cleaned or replaced

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