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  • copiman
    Technician

    500+ Posts
    • Sep 2011
    • 861

    #1

    [Jamming] DP 6030

    I have a DP 6030 that seems to have an issue with according jams in the fuser. The jam is due to catching on one of the strippers. I go out, remove the jam, and test the machine. No jamming while I am there. The lead edge of the copies are clean. I have replaced the strippers and web. It still happens. If I could get rid of this issue, I could eliminate 80% of the calls on this machine. Anyone have have any suggestions. I know theory of operation. Somewhat new to the Panasonic line. Self taught on Panasonics except for A4 machines.
  • 20gaugeO/U
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 553

    #2
    Re: DP 6030

    Adj F6-07, increase the reg void as large as you can get away with. Especially if they are using poor paper. Either that or the pressure roller is shot and not the right diameter or bearings seizing.

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    • mojorolla
      The Wolf

      2,500+ Posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 2569

      #3
      Re: DP 6030

      Try these setting in F6:
      07: set to 10
      21: set to -35
      31 and 32: set to -8
      65:set to -5
      Turn off the Quantum (F5-25) feature on these models. Pull the upper sep assembly and lay it flat on the floor. If it does not lay flat, the fingers will have to be aligned. There is also a retrofit for these fusers. They moved the fingers to the exit door eliminating the majority of the fuser jams; probably your best bet.


      Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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      • JustManuals
        Field Supervisor

        5,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2006
        • 9838

        #4
        Re: DP 6030

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        • PanaTech
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Dec 2008
          • 71

          #5
          Re: DP 6030

          FYI, the fuser mod kit part number is PJZYF2758PU

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          • copiman
            Technician

            500+ Posts
            • Sep 2011
            • 861

            #6
            Re: DP 6030

            Thanks to all for your help. Will make suggested adjusments on next visit. With regaurd to the retrofit, I checked Panasonic parts and the number given, PJZYF2758PU, does not come up. Probably not available anymore. The seperators on this machine are not on the door.. Also, could not find a bulletin for the retrofit. Probably too old.

            FYI- Panasonic is removing technical information from the b2b site. It is being relocated to the PSNADEALER site. Might want to get what you can while you can. Just in case.

            Thanks again for your help.

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            • PanaTech
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Dec 2008
              • 71

              #7
              Re: DP 6030

              It is in bulletin TI-H21-73. I can email the bulletin if you couldn't find it.

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              • copiman
                Technician

                500+ Posts
                • Sep 2011
                • 861

                #8
                Re: DP 6030

                Originally posted by PanaTech
                It is in bulletin TI-H21-73. I can email the bulletin if you couldn't find it.
                Can you send it by PM me? Also wanted to ask. The bulletins I have downloaded from the b2b site use bulletin numbers like M-0206i. I assume the bulletin you are talking about is not available anymore. I sure did pick a fine time to start servicing Panasonics. Tech support gone. Part backorders. Information fading. I am thankful for this web site and the help I have received.

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                • Logged-on
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 197

                  #9
                  Re: DP 6030

                  Don't think I saw it mentioned, but be sure to clean the fuser entrance plate. If toner builds on the edge, it can cause accordian jams. Also I'm not sure what condition your UFR is in, but I've found sometimes they appear to be in good condition, but enough teflon has worn off to cause the paper to stick to the UFR.

                  Also if the web drive unit is not sliding freely across the UFR, it implies that the web isn't advancing properly. There is a 1way gear behind the solenoid plate that drives the web, the old style is white, new style is black, I believe the number is PJDRC0195z, (clean the 1way on the lever as well (or replace)). Make sure the metal frame of the fuser is fitted properly into the plastic slots, and I've found an extra turn on the screw securing the plastic frame to the metal frame will allow the web to move more freely on the fuser frame.

                  The upgrade for the fuser will help the customer remove the jams, but it likely won't prevent them.

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                  • copiman
                    Technician

                    500+ Posts
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 861

                    #10
                    Re: DP 6030

                    Originally posted by Logged-on
                    Don't think I saw it mentioned, but be sure to clean the fuser entrance plate. If toner builds on the edge, it can cause accordian jams. Also I'm not sure what condition your UFR is in, but I've found sometimes they appear to be in good condition, but enough teflon has worn off to cause the paper to stick to the UFR.

                    Also if the web drive unit is not sliding freely across the UFR, it implies that the web isn't advancing properly. There is a 1way gear behind the solenoid plate that drives the web, the old style is white, new style is black, I believe the number is PJDRC0195z, (clean the 1way on the lever as well (or replace)). Make sure the metal frame of the fuser is fitted properly into the plastic slots, and I've found an extra turn on the screw securing the plastic frame to the metal frame will allow the web to move more freely on the fuser frame.

                    The upgrade for the fuser will help the customer remove the jams, but it likely won't prevent them.
                    Thanks Logged-on. I tried the part # you listed on b2b website and it came up no good. Looked at bulletins and could not find it. If you get a minute and can check on the part # I would appreciate it. Make sure the metal frame of the fuser is fitted properly into the plastic slots, and I've found an extra turn on the screw securing the plastic frame to the metal frame will allow the web to move more freely on the fuser frame. Not sure what you mean on this.

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                    • 20gaugeO/U
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 553

                      #11
                      Re: DP 6030

                      PJZSF2758PU is for the fuser mod.

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                      • Logged-on
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 197

                        #12
                        Re: DP 6030

                        Originally posted by copiman
                        Thanks Logged-on. I tried the part # you listed on b2b website and it came up no good. Looked at bulletins and could not find it. If you get a minute and can check on the part # I would appreciate it. Make sure the metal frame of the fuser is fitted properly into the plastic slots, and I've found an extra turn on the screw securing the plastic frame to the metal frame will allow the web to move more freely on the fuser frame. Not sure what you mean on this.


                        Sorry, took me a bit to get back to you, and ya wrong pn, try PJDGC0195z. And oops not the metal frame of the fuser, it's the web assembly. the shell is metal, with the plastic plates on either end securing the web into place. There is one screw at top of either plate. The web assbly is secured to the fuser frame with one collar screw (two with the 3530), there is about an eighth of an inch play that once you secure the web to the fuser, the web should slide back and forth across the fuser frame with that 1/8th inch play, freely. When the screw securing the side plates to the web assembly is loose(r), I've found that instead of the frame of the fuser sliding back and forth on the frame of the fuser, the plates just flex and it impedes the web assembly's ability to slide freely across the fuser frame, so by tightening up the 2 screws (one on either side), it will hold the plates more securely against the web's outer casing, and the plates won't flex as they slide across the fuser frame.

                        Once the web assembly is sliding freely across the fuser frame it should help with it's ability to clean the ufr. If the ufr is worn, it will also impede the web drive's performance, sometimes it's hard to tell how worn the surface is, unless you view with light reflected from the surface. I believe the ufr's life is rated at 240k, and it should last around that as long as the web is functioning properly.

                        Again, sorry for the delay, Hope this helps

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                        • copiman
                          Technician

                          500+ Posts
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 861

                          #13
                          Re: DP 6030

                          Thanks everyone for your response. I made the adjustments that Mojorolla mentioned. Time will tell. I have no history on this machine. Only what I have done since we took over service. About 100k ago. One thing I have come to believe. These machines, Panasonics, need to run lean on toner/dev ratio. I am now getting a better handle on this. Never had to do this on equipment I used to service, but all manufacturers have thier issues. Anyway, thanks again for your help.

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                          • copiman
                            Technician

                            500+ Posts
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 861

                            #14
                            Re: DP 6030

                            Just FYI. I rebuilt the fuser unit and so far all is good. Thanks again to everyone who supported me on this.

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                            • Marku
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 28

                              #15
                              Re: DP 6030

                              I know this is a bit late. When you say "strippers" do you mean the spring loaded pick fingers for the upper heat roller?

                              If the pick finger plate assembly is bent in any way, those fingers are not aligned and cause jams. I have never been able to reshape that assembly and get it straight.

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