Overall Impression of the MP4000/5000

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    #31
    Another technical bulletin has been posted a few days ago. It describes almost the same "workaround" well known from the last bulletin (lower the toner concentration via SP edits to the absolute minimum) - besides one additional info:

    SP2001-001 (charge bias) - add 100 to the current value

    But all in all it's kind of nonsense or a bad joke what Ricoh says regarding what factors causes the problems:

    - low enviroment temperature
    - high print volume
    - doing many 1:1 copy jobs
    - paper dust in the waste toner process
    - printjobs with a high black coverage

    Eeerrrrm..I had trouble in very different and mostly regular enviroments so it's an absolute bullshit to try to assign the blame to these factors while not to mention that this is a 100% toner/dev issue.

    At least the bulletin does mentioned that they are still working on a "so called" final solution. Maybe kind of "just don't use this machine for any print and copy jobs"

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    • cobiray
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      #32
      I've just tried to order the dev unit (D0093010) this week and my parts room has told me that the part number is no longer valid and there is no updated number available!!! Huh?!? You've got to be kidding me one this. I can't get the part that is, allegedly, the problem now on top of everything else?

      I have a MP3500 and a 3035 in the shop that I'm going to do a little experamenting on this weekend. If the dev bias and fuser temps are close enough I'm putting the B079 developer in the MP3500. If that goes well I may press my luck and swipe the MP4000 out of the demo room for similar treatment. Looks like I will have to swap the toner bottle coupling also...
      the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
      Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
      Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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      • TonerMunkeh
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        • Apr 2008
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        #33
        Originally posted by cobiray
        Looks like I will have to swap the toner bottle coupling also...
        Why?
        It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

        Hit it.

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        • Cipher
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          #34
          Originally posted by cobiray
          I've just tried to order the dev unit (D0093010) this week and my parts room has told me that the part number is no longer valid and there is no updated number available!!! Huh?!? You've got to be kidding me one this. I can't get the part that is, allegedly, the problem now on top of everything else?
          That's crazy.

          I would email them that can't be right.
          • Knowledge not shared, is eventually knowledge that becomes lost... like tears in the rain.

          Fully qualified technician for Ricoh - Canon - Sharp - HP - Brother

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          • cobiray
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            #35
            Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
            Why?
            So the bottle rotates, silly.

            But seriously, the base of the bottle is different and the p/n is different. I haven't pulled it out yet to see if it will by chance fit, but that's on the agenda anyway.
            the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
            Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
            Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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            • cobiray
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              #36
              Originally posted by Cipher
              That's crazy.

              I would email them that can't be right.
              You let me know who I need to tell and I will. Ricoh parts department has no answer. The DSM didn't even know about it being unavailable (he's the one who recommended I order it).
              the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
              Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
              Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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              • iMind
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                #37
                Originally posted by cobiray
                I've just tried to order the dev unit (D0093010) this week and my parts room has told me that the part number is no longer valid and there is no updated number available!!! Huh?!?
                Hi Cobi check this D0093100.
                Attached Files
                sigpicWe can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound

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                • cobiray
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                  #38
                  I've seen that one Paul. The mag roller was where I was going to start, but it's unavailable. Unfortunately my parts room told me the same was true for the entire development unit as well; the part number is invalid and there's not a replacement number in the system.

                  On a positive note, (aside from working on a Saturday) I swapped dev unit, drum unit and toner motor from a 3035 into a MP3500. It ran about 3k or so with no problems or degradation in quality. I'm hoping I can convince the suits to try it in a MP4000 next...

                  Here's the TSB that references the dev unit by number.
                  Last edited by cobiray; 09-28-2008, 04:31 AM. Reason: added TSB
                  the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
                  Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
                  Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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                  • Shadow1
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                    • Sep 2008
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                    #39
                    Try ordering the developer unit again... Ricoh parts is using the Oracle system now -- Failure is not an option, it's built in to the system!
                    73 DE W5SSJ

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                    • iMind
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                      #40
                      Just for our information: the unit is now called, PCDU and PN# D0092200. so we´ll have to order the drum and development unit together, a money $ making machine. LOL.
                      Last edited by iMind; 09-29-2008, 03:37 PM.
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                      • iMind
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                        #41
                        CORRECTION to my previous post: PN# D0092100 drum and development unit as a set.
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                        • cobiray
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                          #42
                          That's not very comforting...
                          the savin2535 is displaying well bet the hiter lamp is not shining and the lamp had been tested o.k.please kindly help.
                          Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of shit out the window.
                          Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.

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