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  • patterson70
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    #1

    Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

    Hello, I have a client with a Ricoh MP-171SPF who is in an office where they are wireless, and they want me to connect a cat5 ethernet cable directly to the laptop and scan to it. So I did and I can print to it but I cannot get the scan to go through. It has the latest firmware. I told them I need a router involved but he is insisting that it can work without one. So I do not have a gateway address to use. Has anyone been able to do this? Don't know what to tell him. Thanks.
  • Cookr
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    Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

    Only way I have been able to connect directly to a machine is with a crossover cable. Thats how I can rule out the machine and show the customer that it is a network or computer issue when dealing with scanning.

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    • qbert69
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      Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

      Originally posted by patterson70
      Hello, I have a client with a Ricoh MP-171SPF who is in an office where they are wireless, and they want me to connect a cat5 ethernet cable directly to the laptop and scan to it. So I did and I can print to it but I cannot get the scan to go through. It has the latest firmware. I told them I need a router involved but he is insisting that it can work without one. So I do not have a gateway address to use. Has anyone been able to do this? Don't know what to tell him. Thanks.
      Make it simple.

      Download this FREE TWAIN host scanner software!:

      Download NAPS2 - Not Another PDF Scanner for free. Scan documents to PDF and other file types, as simply as possible. Visit NAPS2's home page at www.naps2.com. NAPS2 is a document scanning application with a focus on simplicity and ease of use.


      Install the appropriate TWAIN driver for that model of MFP, hook up USB connection and away you go!...this is a "pull scan" BTW!

      Or, if you want to get crazy and do a "push scan", get a crossover ethernet cable, configure IP on MFP & computer's NIC cards with static IP and subnet, plugin, configure address book in MFP and folder in Computer....you know the drill!

      Oh fageddaboutit!....just do the damn pull scan!...you'll be out of there in 10 minutes or less!

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      • LNorris
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        Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

        can they print to it without the cable? is it on its own connection? if so, if you can see the printer on the network, should be able to set up scan without a cable. or set up a wireless extender on the 171 that puts the mfp on their network and scan that way.

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        • patterson70
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          Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

          Thanks for all the suggestions. I do need push scanning. The client does not want the machine on their network due to security concerns he said. He says I should be able to do the direct connection. And it does work for printing. I will double check to see if the path is using the IP address instead of the PC's name, I think it is already set that way. I will also make sure it is a static IP on his PC. I am not sure having a blank gateway is going to work, but maybe that does not matter?

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          • jhalfhide
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            Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

            Use the free FileZilla FTP server and host an FTP share. If you can print, you have network connectivity so scanning shouldn't be an issue. Be sure to open up port 21 on the PC firewall (FTP port). No need for a crossover, nothing to do with OS version but purely that newer ports are auto-switching.


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            • sandmanmac
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              Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

              It's definitely not a problem to scan directly to the laptop with an ethernet cable and I agree, a crossover is not necessary with Windows 7 laptops onward and all that's required is the IP address and G/W
              Even if you previously turned on printer and folder sharing in the Network and sharing centre, you may need to check again, because I think the network automatically changes to Public when it's connected directly, and sharing is turned off by default

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              • rthonpm
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                Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                The customer is all wireless yet claims the MFP is a security issue? Whatever... Sounds like a good case for the scan to USB option or really anything beyond scan to SMB. After all, how does the customer intend to get the scans from the laptop to the rest of the world? Is he dual homing the laptop so that it's connected to both networks? Maybe just a USB TWAIN scanner would be a better idea.

                Overall, the only things you'll need are a static IP on both the 171 and the Ethernet port on the laptop in the same IP range, though make sure that it's a unique range from the wireless network's IP range. For example, if the wireless network is on 192.168.0.xxx then make the Ethernet 10.0.0.xxx and give the 171 a static address in that same range like 10.0.0.yyy. Make the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and just use anything for the gateway like 10.0.0.1, since it will just be a dummy address anyway since the gateway is the address that can jump from your network to the larger internet.

                Make sure that the network type on the laptop's Ethernet port is set to either Work or Home, which opens the ports needed for SMB.
                Last edited by rthonpm; 05-18-2016, 04:20 PM. Reason: More detail, less griping about the customer.

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                • qbert69
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                  Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                  Originally posted by qbert69
                  Make it simple.

                  Download this FREE TWAIN host scanner software!:

                  Download NAPS2 - Not Another PDF Scanner for free. Scan documents to PDF and other file types, as simply as possible. Visit NAPS2's home page at www.naps2.com. NAPS2 is a document scanning application with a focus on simplicity and ease of use.


                  Install the appropriate TWAIN driver for that model of MFP, hook up USB connection and away you go!...this is a "pull scan" BTW!

                  Or, if you want to get crazy and do a "push scan", get a crossover ethernet cable, configure IP on MFP & computer's NIC cards with static IP and subnet, plugin, configure address book in MFP and folder in Computer....you know the drill!

                  Oh fageddaboutit!....just do the damn pull scan!...you'll be out of there in 10 minutes or less!

                  Did nobody see my post above???

                  Y'all are bitchin' and moanin' about privacy, control and simplicity!

                  If the MFP is NEAR the PC, a USB cable with pull scan WILL SUFFICE for printing AND scanning!

                  PLUS!

                  The user can make scanner profiles for different DPI in the host software and such!

                  SHEESH!

                  Y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill!....DOH!



                  PS--10 minute setup....tops!
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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                    Originally posted by qbert69
                    Did nobody see my post above???

                    Y'all are bitchin' and moanin' about privacy, control and simplicity!

                    If the MFP is NEAR the PC, a USB cable with pull scan WILL SUFFICE for printing AND scanning!

                    PLUS!

                    The user can make scanner profiles for different DPI in the host software and such!

                    SHEESH!

                    Y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill!....DOH!



                    PS--10 minute setup....tops!

                    If you are going to do pull scanning, just download the network TWAIN or network WIA driver from Ricoh. No USB is needed. WIA driver does not require specific software, just use default Windows scanner/camera software.

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                    • jhalfhide
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                      #11
                      Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                      OP has said he requires push scanning.


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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                        Originally posted by jhalfhide
                        OP has said he requires push scanning.


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                        Try a test scan. When it errors out, immediately go to User Tools - System Settings - Interface and print list. The last page of the printout will show a partial network log. Look for the SMB errors to see what they are. As far as network settings, use the IP address of the computer as both the gateway and the DNS. Make sure that the SMB workgroup is the same as the workgroup on the computer. Check the firewall settings on the computer. If they are using McAfee, you can disable the firewall temporarily. If that allows scanning then it is up to the IT and McAfee to correct.

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                        • patterson70
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                          Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                          Great help guys, really appreciate it. I will be there hopefully tomorrow to apply these suggestions and report back with the result.

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                          • KenB
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                            #14
                            Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                            Last I remember, most Ricoh machines cannot scan over USB, network only.

                            I think some of the entry level consumer grade machines can use USB, but I don't think any business model ( such as this one) can.

                            No gateway required, as stated already, Almost all computers built over the past number of years will compensate for using a straight through cable instead of a crossover, also already stated.
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                            • Klydon
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                              Re: Scan directly to a laptop without using a router

                              Ken is right. Scan isn't supported over USB. I got this word from tech support directly and then went back and read the machine specs. Sure enough, no mention of scanning over USB.

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