MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

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  • MitchD
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    • Oct 2012
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    MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

    Just giving everyone a heads up on a SC670 I had the other day on a MPc6502.

    Basically I arrived to a machine that would not come to ready and after 5 min or so would code SC670. After pulling the rear covers and reseating all the connectors I concluded I had lost power to the BICU, IOB, and PFB. The controller would turn on but none of the other boards would receive power. All fuses on the AC power board tested good. Per Ricoh tech support hotline we opened all covers and rebooted the machine, It came to ready. After closing the covers one by one I found the machine would code again after closing the main drawer.

    After checking all the wires I found the thermistor wire pinched on the fuser causing a short when the drawer was closed. I rerouted and everything is working great.

    Just wanted to pass along my findings for everyone.
    "Heavy music to the normal ear is nothing but a loud annoyance. Most people think of it as obnoxious, talentless music but to someone who really listens and is really in love with music knows how beautiful and amazing it can be" Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried and Me"
  • slimslob
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    Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

    And another potential problem with these beasts.

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    • MIKON
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      Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

      Thanks. ....

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      • MitchD
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        Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

        Originally posted by slimslob
        And another potential problem with these beasts.
        Agreed, Still way better than the MPc6501 tho
        "Heavy music to the normal ear is nothing but a loud annoyance. Most people think of it as obnoxious, talentless music but to someone who really listens and is really in love with music knows how beautiful and amazing it can be" Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried and Me"

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        • Counsel
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          • Aug 2011
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          #5
          Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

          isnt there a TSB on this regarding the drawer pinching some wire harness.

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          • bob marley
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            • Jan 2012
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            Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

            Originally posted by MitchD
            Just wanted to pass along my findings for everyone.
            thanks
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            • mrwho
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              Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

              Originally posted by MitchD
              Agreed, Still way better than the MPc6501 tho
              I'd gladly replace the 6500 and 6501 I have for 10 of those...
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              • anothertech
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                Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

                Yeah, so far these 6502's are much better that the 01's or 00's

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                • MitchD
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                  Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

                  Originally posted by Counsel
                  isnt there a TSB on this regarding the drawer pinching some wire harness.
                  I didnt see one for the MPC6502 but did happen to run across it for the C5100.

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                  "Heavy music to the normal ear is nothing but a loud annoyance. Most people think of it as obnoxious, talentless music but to someone who really listens and is really in love with music knows how beautiful and amazing it can be" Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried and Me"

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                  • Lagonda
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                    • Aug 2008
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                    Re: MPC6502 SC670 - Solved

                    Thanks for the heads up on this one Mitch. My SC670 turned out to be a faulty AC Drive Board. The field techs spent a lot of time swapping controller , IOB, IPU etc following the theory that one board wasn't talking to another but got nowhere. Dragged the box back here to the workshop and I did some reading first and came up with your post which led me to check the power supply. Yep, one of the 5v rails was dead so some of the boards weren't communicating as they were never being turned on. Half an hour with the multimeter found that the AC Drive wasn't fully powering up the PSU ECO and PSU FW.

                    The trick to this game is to read everything you can first but to start fault finding with an open mind. Be prepared to admit that you've gone down a blind ally and go back to square one and start again. Too often techs get one fixed idea in their head and spend hours even days trying to prove wilder and wilder theory's.

                    One again thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
                    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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