MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

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  • DanaNL
    Technician
    • Nov 2016
    • 25

    #1

    MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

    Hello,

    Today i had to install an Ricoh MP C4503, saddly the custommer had a Voip Line so the FAX is giving me headache.

    i tried already to change the Bitrate of the FAX to 9,6Kbps but no luck also changed it to 2,4kbps but stil no luck.
    i have also shutdown the ECM in the Fax SP.

    any ideas will be appreciatet.

    thanks in advance.
  • slimslob
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    25,000+ Posts
    • May 2013
    • 37533

    #2
    Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

    Sound to me like a VOIP line problem, not a machine problem. Contact the VOIP line provider and tell them that the line is not supporting outgoing FAX.

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    • DanaNL
      Technician
      • Nov 2016
      • 25

      #3
      Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

      The problem is that a Ricoh technician gave me the SP table to change the bitrate but its not function, and when i call Ricoh they simply dont answer because they're on holiday ( netherlands )

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
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        Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

        Originally posted by DanaNL
        The problem is that a Ricoh technician gave me the SP table to change the bitrate but its not function, and when i call Ricoh they simply dont answer because they're on holiday ( netherlands )
        That SP table is only part of the problem. There are certain settings fir the VOIP line itself that have to be made.

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        • guitar9199
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          1,000+ Posts
          • Sep 2016
          • 1100

          #5
          Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

          Originally posted by slimslob
          That SP table is only part of the problem. There are certain settings fir the VOIP line itself that have to be made.

          See if this helps...Fax SP settings for Digital Phone Systems and VoIP.pdf

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          • Gift
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2011
            • 2459

            #6
            Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

            Does it also happen if you use on hook/manual dial (while hering into the speaker). If that works you just need to turn off dial tone detection - that often causes connection issues // set user sw22 bit 0->0 ....IIRC^^. Otherwise the linked PDF includes all neccessary VoIP tweaks and since RX works it seems not a communication problem to me (wich requires a connection).

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            • DanaNL
              Technician
              • Nov 2016
              • 25

              #7
              Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

              I have already done step 6 and 7 of the FAX SP settings. but stil no results.

              @gift thanks for thinking but the problem stil exist

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              • Oze
                Ricoh Fanboy

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2008
                • 1663

                #8
                Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                Modem Type for RX
                G3 - 1
                Switch 06, Bits 7,6,5,4

                SP1105-007
                Set = 0011

                Max Carrier Allowable Drop Time
                G3 - 1 Switch 0A, Bits 1,0

                SP1105-011
                Set = 10

                Max Allowable frame interval
                G3 - 1 Switch 0A, Bits 4

                SP1105-011
                Set = 1

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                • DanaNL
                  Technician
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 25

                  #9
                  Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                  im in awaiting of the customer to check their Portforwarding.

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                  • DanaNL
                    Technician
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 25

                    #10
                    Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                    The Ports where forwarded and other machines can fax.....
                    i'm getting a listof wich machines are working and wich not.

                    for now 1 Brother MFC works.
                    so i think its the Ricoh with a faulty setup.


                    i hope they have a ricoh machine there so i can compare the SP table.

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                    • Mark Bbb
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1662

                      #11
                      Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                      many times Brother has a better default setting and standard optional equipment than Ricoh...

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                      • Gift
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2459

                        #12
                        Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                        I noticed the V8 protocol setting is different for the new ricoh mfp (moved to user switches) - (old SP G3 switch still exist but has no effect):

                        User SW 06 → bit #1 +# 2 +# 3 ---> set all to "0"

                        And don't forget User SW22 -> bit #0 -> set to "0"

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                        • DanaNL
                          Technician
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                          I have transfered the problem to a Ricoh Engineer, when they finished i will ask them to tell me what the problem was. i will keep you guys informed.

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                          • Gift
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2459

                            #14
                            Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                            Looking forward to know what might does the trick

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                            • DanaNL
                              Technician
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 25

                              #15
                              Re: MP C4503 Received fax but cant send fax with a voip line

                              Problem is solved, the Ricoh Technician did the same as i did the only thing is its right now working........

                              i have checked the steps 3 times and it was al good but did not work. i think he has magic hands....


                              for in the future the solution will be
                              change the baudrate to 9600 in SP 1-105-006 change the value to 0.1.0.0
                              ====================SP 1-106-007 change the value to 0.1.0.0
                              SP 1-104-002 change the value to 0

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