Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

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  • hsh6049
    Technician
    • Jul 2012
    • 64

    #1

    Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

    hey guys can idea wht's going on my ricoh mp65/7500 every 250k waste toner bottle full
  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
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    Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

    Normal PM cycle is 300K so 250K is not far off. I would say that either you are running slightly over toned or you are using third party supplies. Another possibility is machine is not getting the proper usage. If usage is too little, amount of toner dumped to the waste during auto process control becomes a larger percentage of total toner waste.

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    • hsh6049
      Technician
      • Jul 2012
      • 64

      #3
      Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

      Originally posted by slimslob
      Normal PM cycle is 300K so 250K is not far off. I would say that either you are running slightly over toned or you are using third party supplies. Another possibility is machine is not getting the proper usage. If usage is too little, amount of toner dumped to the waste during auto process control becomes a larger percentage of total toner waste.
      Normal PM cycle is 300K so 250K is not far off ( do u meant Even use original toner every 300k the waste toner will full?) of course i am using compatible toner but i had two units mp6500 one every 250k full but he other running 1 million
      just only a few in waste toner bottle

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      • andy227
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        100+ Posts
        • Jan 2013
        • 219

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        Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

        Compatible toners do not work well with this machine. They dump toner everywhere, they overtone, they undertone. False economy. Also check your re-cyclying/classification unit on the dev unit. They are notorious for the mylar paddles coming off and not working ok. When I have the dev unit out for whatever other reason, I routinely check the re-cycle unit and find that I have to glue back the mylar paddles half the time, assuming I can find them.

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        • aktasson
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          • Feb 2017
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          Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

          As slimslob already said, usage could be the problem. Check the smc all list for jobs/PGS (SP 8-071).
          2017-06-03 13_23_29-Gimlet_Handzettel_1_3.pdf.jpg

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          • slimslob
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            Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

            Originally posted by hsh6049
            Normal PM cycle is 300K so 250K is not far off ( do u meant Even use original toner every 300k the waste toner will full?) of course i am using compatible toner but i had two units mp6500 one every 250k full but he other running 1 million
            just only a few in waste toner bottle
            The experience tech empties the waste toner as part of a regular PM. Saves having to drive an hour to the customer when it fills up a week or two later. We also tend to check them on every service call for the same reason. Let see 1M divided by 3 (a few) is 333K. Well with the the expected variance.

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            • Tonerbomb
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              • Feb 2005
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              Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

              Originally posted by aktasson
              As slimslob already said, usage could be the problem. Check the smc all list for jobs/PGS (SP 8-071).
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              Also check the pages by fill rate, too many pages with fill rate below 5% will cause excess waste and the machine will run dirty.

              After market toner SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!1
              Mystic Crystal Revelations

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              • Lagonda
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                • Aug 2008
                • 1649

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                Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

                How old is your developer? Toner won't bind to developer thats worn out or contaminated with paper dust.
                At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                • hsh6049
                  Technician
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 64

                  #9
                  Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

                  How old is your developer? Toner won't bind to developer thats worn out or contaminated with paper dusrunning

                  running more than half million, but i got one unit mp 6500 developer running 700,000.00 ...the waster toner bottle only containt a liittle bit waste toner thats why i dont understand
                  never change any setting before, same toner same type of developer but the other unit easily get full

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                  • Polarbear
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1070

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                    Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

                    AFAIK these machines have a toner recycle/waste system. Is it possible that through settings it was forced not to open the waste solinoid until much higher readings than normal?

                    That would explain why the waste was almost empty.
                    Press the GREEN button!!

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                    • davel
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                      • Oct 2011
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                      Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

                      Originally posted by Polarbear
                      AFAIK these machines have a toner recycle/waste system. Is it possible that through settings it was forced not to open the waste solinoid until much higher readings than normal?

                      That would explain why the waste was almost empty.
                      No waste solenoid in any of this range of machines over many years.

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                      • MIKON
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 186

                        #12
                        Re: Is it normal for ricoh mp65/7500 every 250K Waste toner bottle full ?

                        Not normal
                        Dump developer
                        Clean every bit off dev
                        Cylinder.
                        Turrn knob and vac until there's nothing left.

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