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  • callmefirst
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    • Feb 2012
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    #1

    Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

    Are the Drum Units and Toner for Ricoh MP201 and MP301 the same, part #s are different, yet they look identical, is the developer different?
  • sandmanmac
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    #2
    Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

    Toner bottle and toner loading system very different.

    Use type 1515 pcu by either swapping the faceplate with an MP301 PCU, OR snap off the plastic locator pin on the front of the machine and slide it in.
    Quite a few threads about this.

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    • slimslob
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      Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

      If you look at a Genuine Ricoh toner bottle, you will see a small box with a number in it, usually three digits. This is the recipe number for the toner and developer. If the recipe number of the toner does not match the developer, you will have CQ problems. If the recipe number of 2 different toner bottles match but they are different product codes, there is a physical difference in the bottles. It could be length, the bottom of the bottle where the bottle motor couples, the quantity of toner or some other difference.

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      • Oze
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        #4
        Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

        Originally posted by slimslob
        If you look at a Genuine Ricoh toner bottle, you will see a small box with a number in it, usually three digits. This is the recipe number for the toner and developer. If the recipe number of the toner does not match the developer, you will have CQ problems. If the recipe number of 2 different toner bottles match but they are different product codes, there is a physical difference in the bottles. It could be length, the bottom of the bottle where the bottle motor couples, the quantity of toner or some other difference.
        Agreed...with these two machines it's the different base of the bottle.

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        • Polarbear
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          #5
          Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

          Originally posted by slimslob
          If you look at a Genuine Ricoh toner bottle, you will see a small box with a number in it, usually three digits. This is the recipe number for the toner and developer. If the recipe number of the toner does not match the developer, you will have CQ problems. If the recipe number of 2 different toner bottles match but they are different product codes, there is a physical difference in the bottles. It could be length, the bottom of the bottle where the bottle motor couples, the quantity of toner or some other difference.
          Slimslob

          I see the number on the devs but not on the toner bottles? Where is this number located?
          Press the GREEN button!!

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          • sturmtrooper
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            #6
            Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

            Originally posted by Polarbear
            Slimslob

            I see the number on the devs but not on the toner bottles? Where is this number located?
            Next to the box that says components
            Left bottle 1170D toner, right bottle MP301 toner - Imgur

            I believe that is what he means.

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            • slimslob
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              Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

              Originally posted by Polarbear
              Slimslob

              I see the number on the devs but not on the toner bottles? Where is this number located?
              You're not looking at the lot number on the top of the developer bag are you? The recipe number is usually only 3 digits and is in a small box at the bottom of the label.

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              • Polarbear
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                #8
                Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                Next to the box that says components
                Left bottle 1170D toner, right bottle MP301 toner - Imgur

                I believe that is what he means.

                Thanks Chaps.

                Ours don't seem to have those. There is only EDP code information on the label
                Press the GREEN button!!

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                • copyaction
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                  #9
                  Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                  Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                  Next to the box that says components
                  Left bottle 1170D toner, right bottle MP301 toner - Imgur

                  I believe that is what he means.
                  i thought those would be the same since the 1515pcu appears to work in the 301

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                    Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                    Next to the box that says components
                    Left bottle 1170D toner, right bottle MP301 toner - Imgur

                    I believe that is what he means.
                    Originally posted by Polarbear
                    Thanks Chaps.

                    Ours don't seem to have those. There is only EDP code information on the label
                    The recipe number is the 3 digit number in the box. 160 on one bottle, 514 on the other. Even though the ingredients in both are the same, with different recipe numbers, the ratio of those ingredients are not the same. If your bottles do not have the recipe number they are probably not Genuine Ricoh.

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                    • tufbnme
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                      #11
                      Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                      Why hassle with trying to adapt a 1515pcu? the type 301 PCUs are about the same price as the 1515 and the toners are cheap too.

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                      • sandmanmac
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                        #12
                        Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                        Originally posted by tufbnme
                        Why hassle with trying to adapt a 1515pcu? the type 301 PCUs are about the same price as the 1515 and the toners are cheap too.
                        Maybe you get special dealer pricing? but not me (not a lot of us), and the PCU's are just shy of twice the price here.

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                        • copyaction
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                          #13
                          Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                          Originally posted by sandmanmac
                          Maybe you get special dealer pricing? but not me (not a lot of us), and the PCU's are just shy of twice the price here.
                          Same here the 301's are almost double the price

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                          • sturmtrooper
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                            #14
                            Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                            I just checked and for us as an authorized dealer the 1515PCU supply item and the MP301 PCU as a service part are the same price.

                            I don't know if we are getting any special pricing because we do a fairly low sales volume but are also the only Ricoh dealer for a large, though rural, area.

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                            • sandmanmac
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                              #15
                              Re: Toner and Drum compatability for Ricoh MP 201 and MP 301

                              Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                              I just checked and for us as an authorized dealer the 1515PCU supply item and the MP301 PCU as a service part are the same price.
                              .
                              That's great for you but it doesn't change the fact that it's about 80% higher for me and many others and that's the answer to the question of why some of us might go through the 2 second 'hassle' of modding the 1515 pcu.
                              A lot of us aren't dealers (me), but we can buy parts.

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