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  • RebelPhoenix
    Trusted Tech
    • Oct 2008
    • 138

    #1

    Ricoh AP3800, CL7000, 3228,45 MPc2500, 3000 - MPc3500, 4500

    Hi Dear,

    We tested on AP3800, CL7000, 3228,45 MPc2500, 3000 - MPc3500, 4500 Black Drum Unit same the other drum unit (CMY) for example copier need to change all drum unit you buy the 4 x Black Drum Unit. After you will test and see.
  • Shadow1
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2008
    • 1642

    #2
    The waste toner outlet is a different length on for some of the units - just make sure it bind or fall short and dump inside the machine
    73 DE W5SSJ

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    • RebelPhoenix
      Trusted Tech
      • Oct 2008
      • 138

      #3
      Maybe "The waste toner outlet is a different length" this idea is true. but I don't know. But I don't see the discharge the toner inside the machine.

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      • E Winter

        #4
        I'm using only black drum units or SPC811 pcu's for the MPC series. You just have to "modify" this RJ45 looking plug and break a little nose. If you want to use the MPC unit you'll also have to use the old TD sensor.

        The PM interval for the MPC drum units are 80k but in many cases they run much more prints, expecially if you clean the charge roller occasionally. Just had to replace a unit ....after 200k prints - and the drum was still good looking but had a little HV punch Talking about the SPC stuff - you can also use the fusing unit for the MPC3500-4500 - the complete unit is cheaper than the maintanance kit. You just have to to do a little change at the pin assignment of the Fuser plug - very easy and self explaing if you compare both units.

        As for the 2228-3245 machines Ricoh doesn't offer different PCU's for black/col.

        Never tried to play around with the AP3800/CL7000 units but they are basicly related to the 2228 or 3245 PCU's. Just take care that it fits and the waste toner nozzle should also have the same lenght to avoid problems.

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        • RebelPhoenix
          Trusted Tech
          • Oct 2008
          • 138

          #5
          Hi Dear Jan,

          I'm testing and good result. Do you know Type 21 Developer ? for Ricoh AF-1090. This developer is 1kg. I use this developer on Ricoh AF-1015, 2015, 2016, mp1500, 1600, 3025, 1035, 1045, 2035, 2045, 2060, mp7500 important the developer gram or kg.

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          • E Winter

            #6
            I've never tried to use one developer for different machines and I can't really imagine that this is working with so many generations.

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            • RebelPhoenix
              Trusted Tech
              • Oct 2008
              • 138

              #7
              My friend. This is not a problem. Please Believe me. So Don't the make imaging problem.

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              • TonerMunkeh
                Professional Moron

                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2008
                • 3865

                #8
                I suppose it's a good way to save on parts but a fantastic way to completely knacker a lot of perfectly good machines.

                I don't mean to sound nasty or offensive, but don't put the wrong dev in the wrong machine, eventually it will go horribly wrong....
                It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                Hit it.

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                • RebelPhoenix
                  Trusted Tech
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 138

                  #9
                  Dear,

                  Please You buy a type 21 developer after You must the quantify 345gr. Because Type 21 developer is 1 kg After You fill the this developer (345gr.) in Aficio 1015, 2015 developer case. After developer mixing. After You click the start button and see the copy.

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                  • DCR

                    #10
                    I use type 21 in the Martini c1/c2/c3 as well, never had a problem with it, I keep more type 21 than any other dev on board as I've got about 12 2105/2090's on my area.

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                    • Shadow1
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1642

                      #11
                      We used to do this all the time back in the old days when Lanier mainly sold Toshiba and never had a problem with the analog machines. I would recommed caution when doing this with the Ricoh products - for example: The formula for the 5485 and LD090 as the same, but the toner had a finer grind in the LD machines and produced better halftones. Putting the 54 series developer in the LD series machine would result in lower copy quality. Putting LD series developer in a 54 series machine would cause it to run dirty, and eventually have void streaks from blockages on the doctor blade
                      73 DE W5SSJ

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                      • TonerMunkeh
                        Professional Moron

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3865

                        #12
                        Well bugger me.

                        Unfortunately working for Ricoh I won't get to try this as I'd probably get hung, drawn and quartered for not fitting the correct dev.

                        Might be an interesting point for a dealer to try however?
                        It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                        Hit it.

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                        • semi
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 195

                          #13
                          Used to it when working for a dealer,some dev is cheaper,same a last post-Now i work for Ricoh ,better fit the right stuff

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                          • Meister77
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jan Sommer
                            I'm using only black drum units or SPC811 pcu's for the MPC series. You just have to "modify" this RJ45 looking plug and break a little nose. If you want to use the MPC unit you'll also have to use the old TD sensor.

                            The PM interval for the MPC drum units are 80k but in many cases they run much more prints, expecially if you clean the charge roller occasionally. Just had to replace a unit ....after 200k prints - and the drum was still good looking but had a little HV punch Talking about the SPC stuff - you can also use the fusing unit for the MPC3500-4500 - the complete unit is cheaper than the maintanance kit. You just have to to do a little change at the pin assignment of the Fuser plug - very easy and self explaing if you compare both units.

                            As for the 2228-3245 machines Ricoh doesn't offer different PCU's for black/col.

                            Never tried to play around with the AP3800/CL7000 units but they are basicly related to the 2228 or 3245 PCU's. Just take care that it fits and the waste toner nozzle should also have the same lenght to avoid problems.

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                            • RebelPhoenix
                              Trusted Tech
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 138

                              #15
                              Dear friends,

                              We ask the Ricoh Dealer or branch " Does we use type 21 developer for Aficio 1015, Is this developer same the Aficio 1015 developer? "

                              Ricoh dealer says ;

                              Oh, No, They Aren't use the same developer WHY ?

                              Because He sell first one developer for Aficio 1015, After AF-1045, After AF-1060

                              We Aren't stupid or crazy.

                              Ricoh AF-1015 developer sell the 30€ in Turkey. 345 gr.
                              Type 21 Ricoh AF-1105 developer sell the 30€ in Turkey. 1 kg

                              I'm buying a Type 21 after I'm filling the this developer 3 bottles. It's time I have a 3 bottle developer for AF-1015. If I buy the 3 developer for AF1015 I pay the 90€ but now I pay the 30€ and I have the 3 bottle developer. I use this technic because I have 1000 machines. So This machines work the rent. And one B&w copy price is 0.010$

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