MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

[techsass]

I have to meet a tech Monday that has an MPc5502 that keeps saying to insert a new black toner bottle. This is not an ADD TONER issue. He updated the firmware & was able to run copies afterwards, but the message showed up just as he was getting his ticket signed and he can't get past it.

He's already tried 2 new bottles, replaced the RFID and replaced the IOB pcb. He also downloaded & installed the firmware that just came out last week.

Any ideas??? The only thing I can think of off hand is to re-initialize the engine.

Thanks for any & all ideas.

[ruben]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

Usually this is caused by a faulty pump, but can sometimes be a faulty or shorted TD sensor.

Toner end flow chart: toner end conditions.pdf

S26 S27 S28 S29	Toner End Sensor - K Toner End Sensor - Y Toner End Sensor - C Toner End Sensor - M	CN207/B14 CN207/B3 CN207/B9 CN207/B6	Open	Toner end cannot be detected.
			Shorted	Toner end is detected when there is enough toner.

[techsass]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

Appreciate the response, but this isn't a false add toner issue. The copier isn't recognizing the new toner bottle. Sp3045 doesn't help, etc.

[copier tech]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

What is the EXACT message?

[Brianneoe]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

Since he updated the firmware as all good techs should, and then the problem appeared, I would check that the machine is not a RM unit that needs a different engine firmware version. I had this problem and the correct firmware corrected it.

Engine
9/26/2016	D143-D144RM_Engine_v1.11a.04_SDCard NOTE: Engine firmware to be used on Greenline Series(RM Models) D111-D142 and D143-D144 Only.
Engine
7/28/2017	D143-D144_Engine_SinglePassDF_v1.11.02_SDCard
	Previous Version
Engine
7/28/2017	D143-D144_Engine_1.11.04_SDCard

[techsass]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

Since he updated the firmware as all good techs should, and then the problem appeared, I would check that the machine is not a RM unit that needs a different engine firmware version. I had this problem and the correct firmware corrected it.

Engine
9/26/2016	D143-D144RM_Engine_v1.11a.04_SDCard NOTE: Engine firmware to be used on Greenline Series(RM Models) D111-D142 and D143-D144 Only.
Engine
7/28/2017	D143-D144_Engine_SinglePassDF_v1.11.02_SDCard
	Previous Version
Engine
7/28/2017	D143-D144_Engine_1.11.04_SDCard

Awesome!!! Strange how tech support was unaware of this.

Will post the actual message after I get out there.

[techsass]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

First off the display says "Toner Cartridge Setting Error".

It is a known issue according to Ricoh Tech support. As Brianneoe stated there is a specific Engine firmware for the Greenline version - 1.11a.04. It doesn't tell you that on esource, but there is a message in the readme saying it's only for machines whose S# has an RM suffix. Usually you can just load the correct firmware and you're back up & running. Usually, but not today. I even tried going back 2 versions of the Engine firmware.

Tried an Engine clear without any luck. Reseated the new RFID pcb, but still no luck.

I then reseated the BCU eeprom and all their print jobs started coming out.

I then shut it down to remove the nvram backup SD card. When I turned it back on my error was back. Reseated the eeprom a few more times, but it never came back to ready.

Hopefully a new eeprom will do the trick.

[sibleyrc]

Re: MPc5502 not recognizing new toner

I had the same issue when I "accidentally" updated the firmware on NON greenline copier using the GREENLINE engine firmware. Reverting to the correct engine firmware corrected the issue.