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  • Guticopy
    Technician
    • Oct 2017
    • 10

    #1

    MP C3503 repeats image

    Hello everyone.


    MP C3503 with 206,000 copies and replaced the heat sleeve for being scratched.

    The problem is that both the new sleeve and the previous one do not fix the toner well in the color copies, especially in solid areas, it repeats the image.
    I want to adjust the melting temperature a bit. The SP tables in temperature settings are very wide.
    You know that SP adjust for a normal type of paper ?
    The manual says not to touch the pressure when coming factory adjusted, although I will try to touch them a bit.
    Someone has had problems with this model with the fixing of toner.
    Thanks in advance
  • Qball
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2013
    • 127

    #2
    Re: MP C3503 repeats image

    What kind of paper is going through the unit?


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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 37502

      #3
      Re: MP C3503 repeats image

      Is it offsetting black as well or only one or more of the colors? It could be the drum unit cleaning blade not being able to completely excess toner from the drum surface. At 206K prints the PM count for pages has not reached 270K but depending on average pages per job, the distance PM count might be exceeded.

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      • Guticopy
        Technician
        • Oct 2017
        • 10

        #4
        Re: MP C3503 repeats image

        The drums are fine, it only occurs to me that they may have excess toner.
        The problem is clearly related to the fuser group, if a copy is made and then the fuser group is removed it looks like the toner has been stuck in the heat sleeve and that is what it then repeats in the next copy, although this is only in black. Where it is best appreciated is when there are solid masses.
        I think I would solve it by raising temperature and pressure but I am not sure that SP touch to raise temperatures a bit, there are many related to it.
        The paper used is normal white, 80 grs.
        Attached copies where the problem is better appreciated.
        Attached Files

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        • slimslob
          Retired

          Site Contributor
          25,000+ Posts
          • May 2013
          • 37502

          #5
          Re: MP C3503 repeats image

          The fusing temperatures for toner used with this model is very precise. It is very important to have the correct paper thickness set. Example, Plain 1 Full color center should be 118 where Plain 2 Full color center should be 123. Plain 1 is 60-74 gms, Plain 2 is 75-80 gms. If the customer is only using 80 gms paper, you could change all settings for plain1 in SP 1105 to match those for Plain2. Check the Operator Instruction Manual for paper thickness tables for other paper types. You may also have to move either up or down one thickness based on paper surface type, e.i. Bond, Letter Head, Semi-gloss, Glossy, Card Stock, etc.

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          • copier tech
            Field Supervisor

            5,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2014
            • 8149

            #6
            Re: MP C3503 repeats image

            Are you using genuine Ricoh toner?

            Dont adjust the fuser temp, simply change the tray paper settings, seting to say 100gsm
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            • Guticopy
              Technician
              • Oct 2017
              • 10

              #7
              Re: MP C3503 repeats image

              Originally posted by slimslob
              The fusing temperatures for toner used with this model is very precise. It is very important to have the correct paper thickness set. Example, Plain 1 Full color center should be 118 where Plain 2 Full color center should be 123. Plain 1 is 60-74 gms, Plain 2 is 75-80 gms. If the customer is only using 80 gms paper, you could change all settings for plain1 in SP 1105 to match those for Plain2. Check the Operator Instruction Manual for paper thickness tables for other paper types. You may also have to move either up or down one thickness based on paper surface type, e.i. Bond, Letter Head, Semi-gloss, Glossy, Card Stock, etc.
              Thanks for the reply.
              I will try tomorrow to apply it.

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              • Guticopy
                Technician
                • Oct 2017
                • 10

                #8
                Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                Originally posted by copier tech
                Are you using genuine Ricoh toner?

                Dont adjust the fuser temp, simply change the tray paper settings, seting to say 100gsm
                Everything is original, also the toner.
                I will first try to change the paper type settings as indicated.
                Thank you

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                • mga
                  Copier Technician

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1393

                  #9
                  Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                  Don't adjust temperature replace oem sleeve assy and pressure roller and use oem toner
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                  • ESTANISLAOWENENTON

                    #10
                    Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                    It has happened to me on two occasions in the same way as to you.

                    the black image is repeated

                    solution?
                    change of fusora in spite of being apparently in very good condition the sleeve and pressure

                    Help

                    Does alguein know the updated part number of the maga for mpc5502?

                    Thank you

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                    • Gift
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2459

                      #11
                      Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                      Originally posted by Guticopy
                      Hello everyone.


                      MP C3503 with 206,000 copies and replaced the heat sleeve for being scratched.

                      The problem is that both the new sleeve and the previous one do not fix the toner well in the color copies, especially in solid areas, it repeats the image.
                      I want to adjust the melting temperature a bit. The SP tables in temperature settings are very wide.
                      You know that SP adjust for a normal type of paper ?
                      The manual says not to touch the pressure when coming factory adjusted, although I will try to touch them a bit.
                      Someone has had problems with this model with the fixing of toner.
                      Thanks in advance
                      Before messing around with the SPs I'd change the paper settings first, e.g. from "normal" to "medium" - this will have the same effect. Did you order the correct sleeve unit? I think there are different part numbers for the different MPCxxx3.

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                      • AjitN
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 287

                        #12
                        Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                        From sample it looks like problem is with only with Cyan.
                        Red color (Yellow + Magenta) is perfect without any distortion OR trailing.
                        Where ever cyan is used, some kind of problem.
                        Pls Check & hope this helps

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                        • AjitN
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 287

                          #13
                          Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                          Originally posted by AjitN
                          From sample it looks like problem is with only with Cyan.
                          Red color (Yellow + Magenta) is perfect without any distortion OR trailing.
                          Where ever cyan is used, some kind of problem.
                          Pls Check & hope this helps
                          R U sure that cyan toner is good and no any other effects.

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                          • Besserwisser
                            Technician
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25

                            #14
                            Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                            ive seen this a couple of times and its the pressurerollers ball bearings not in place, Just take of the sleeve again and you will see that one or both ballbearings have slipt of its holder.

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                            • AjitN
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 287

                              #15
                              Re: MP C3503 repeats image

                              Originally posted by Besserwisser
                              ive seen this a couple of times and its the pressurerollers ball bearings not in place, Just take of the sleeve again and you will see that one or both ballbearings have slipt of its holder.
                              I think Fuser ball-bearings will give problem in all the colors and not in particular one. Also it will affect the complete page. Check for the red color, it is perfect.

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