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  • jerrybrown
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2016
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    Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

    I was wondering if anyone has figured out a way to rebuild or substitute a drum unit for these machines. I am sure we are all aware of the high cost of these units.
  • Lagonda
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    • Aug 2008
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    Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

    We buy rebuild kits from a local parts dealer who tells us that they contain genuine Ricoh parts. We're not sure if that is true but the drums perform as well as a PCU from Ricoh.
    But interestingly I've just discovered that Ricoh Aust. buy in extra K PCU's and strip them to rebuild the colour units.
    It's nice to known that the local factory owned outlet think that their colour PCU'S are exorbitantly priced as well.
    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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    • fshead
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      • Jan 2009
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      #3
      Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

      Not too wander from from the question but what are you guys seeing in yield for K and color drums in these series?
      Found it odd that there was a big difference in k drums vs color in expected yield,from what i remember reading.

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      • Lagonda
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        Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

        Haven't got exact figures to hand but we find that they go well beyond the stated PM figures with no appreciable drop off in copy quality. It is a very rare occurrence to have one fail early.
        At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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        • eddy out
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          • Oct 2016
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          Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

          I had a kpcu go 499k when the wax bar began to fail on one side. It made black, charge roller like streaks, down the printed page. the wax bar failed since it didn't ride evenly and began to soil the charge roller. I will let them go as long as possible, but the wax bar limits their use.

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          • PJB
            Technician
            • Apr 2015
            • 19

            #6
            Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

            It works fine to strip the K PCU and put the parts in the C PCU unit.
            Tried it, and we liked it

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            • copier tech
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              • Jan 2014
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              Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

              We're getting 500k on average.

              It is VERY important to remember to move the lube bar spring when fitting to the 5503 etc (instructions in box) if you don't do this the PCU wears out early.
              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

              ​

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              • jerrybrown
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 5

                #8
                Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                Originally posted by Lagonda
                We buy rebuild kits from a local parts dealer who tells us that they contain genuine Ricoh parts. We're not sure if that is true but the drums perform as well as a PCU from Ricoh.
                But interestingly I've just discovered that Ricoh Aust. buy in extra K PCU's and strip them to rebuild the colour units.
                It's nice to known that the local factory owned outlet think that their colour PCU'S are exorbitantly priced as well.

                Where are you getting those from and how can i order them.

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                • fshead
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                  • Jan 2009
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                  Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                  Originally posted by PJB
                  It works fine to strip the K PCU and put the parts in the C PCU unit.
                  Tried it, and we liked it
                  When using K PCU parts on color what yield do you get?
                  the manual says 400k for K and 270k for color,so i am a bit confused what to expect

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                  • Lagonda
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                    Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                    Originally posted by jerrybrown
                    Where are you getting those from and how can i order them.
                    Local parts dealer here in Oz called Seldrum. Just google them.
                    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                    • eddy out
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                      Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                      Originally posted by Lagonda
                      Local parts dealer here in Oz called Seldrum. Just google them.
                      I have done business with them, never realized they were an Australian outfit. Great quality parts, in my opinion.

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                      • Lagonda
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                        I don't think they are the same mob, just use the same name. Their outfit isn't big enough to be multi-national.
                        At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                        • slimslob
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                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                          Originally posted by jerrybrown
                          Where are you getting those from and how can i order them.
                          Originally posted by eddy out
                          I have done business with them, never realized they were an Australian outfit. Great quality parts, in my opinion.
                          Originally posted by Lagonda
                          I don't think they are the same mob, just use the same name. Their outfit isn't big enough to be multi-national.
                          There used to be a Seldrum in the US. We used to get rebuild kits for the Type 1027 PCU. Haven't heard of them other than in Australia for years.

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                          • fshead
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                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            There used to be a Seldrum in the US. We used to get rebuild kits for the Type 1027 PCU. Haven't heard of them other than in Australia for years.
                            I used seldrum too.
                            Werent they upstate ny?

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                            • Coptech
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                              • Dec 2009
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                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh MPC4503 - 6003

                              Our rep for sel-drum was Tracey Turnbull, the owner was her dad as I understood it. NY sounds right to me. Lot of years ago.

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