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  • taltmeyer
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 8

    Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

    Hi,

    some years ago i got a Ricoh 1224C for nothing and took it in storage. The fuser unit was out of order.
    Recently i cleaned out my storage and got a new fuser for this machine and it works again,
    with some few problems regarding the magenta developer unit, a very slight image skew and
    a smear problem in the duplex unit.

    I am able to print over my LAN connection, but i was not able to scan over the network.

    It seems that there is no working twain driver for Windows 7 x64, and no substitute for that old
    scanrouter software wich won't work on Windows 7. The newer "Globalscan" software from
    Ricoh seems to be unable to recognize that old machine.

    Now my questions:

    Is there a third party software for this machine to enable Windows 7 to scan over
    the network or do i have to install a SMTP-Server somewhere in my network and then using the scan
    to mail option?
    Can i possibly scan to the internal harddisk of this machine and use FTP to get the image?
    Did i have overlooked some simple solution?
    Is there a simple solution with Windows 7?

    Regards,

    Thomas Altmeyer
  • sandmanmac
    Field Supervisor

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 3947

    #2
    Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

    The answers to your 4 questions are:
    No
    No
    No
    and, No

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    • morgansterne
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Oct 2007
      • 83

      #3
      Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

      If you got the 1224c for nothing, you still paid too much! These are Ricoh's worst boxes of the past twenty years.

      I'm surprised that scanrouter doesn't work on windows 7. I used to install scanrouter all the time in the early 2000's and I have some customers still using it (or at least they have a delivery server IP entered in the appropriate spot in the machine).

      I guess your best solution would be to buy a separate little machine for scanning, getting an old windows 95 computer would be more work than it's worth.

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      • vargue
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Oct 2011
        • 403

        #4
        Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

        wow. you are talking about the worst machine in ricoh's production. like ancient Egyptian machines ha ha.

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        • slimslob
          Retired

          Site Contributor
          25,000+ Posts
          • May 2013
          • 35067

          #5
          Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

          Originally posted by vargue
          wow. you are talking about the worst machine in ricoh's production. like ancient Egyptian machines ha ha.
          Actually it is considered a dinosaur.

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          • Brianneoe
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • May 2015
            • 317

            #6
            Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

            I had a customer a while back who needed to upload off the doc server to their PC. We used this option. Look on the controller side of the machine and see if there is a board in the slot that the wireless option would go in. Check these values also
            SP No.

            Value

            SP No.

            Value

            SP No

            Value

            5-836-01

            0(seeNOTE)

            5-836-74

            3

            5-836-83

            1

            5-836-02

            0

            5-836-75

            0

            5-836-84

            0

            5-836-71

            3

            5-836-76

            0

            5-836-85

            1

            5-836-72

            0

            5-836-81

            0

            5-836-86

            2

            [IMG]file:///page550image39648[/IMG] 5-836-73

            0

            5-836-82

            1

            5-836-91

            50

            NOTE:






            1.5.1 PURPOSE OF THE FILE FORMAT CONVERTER (MLB)
            In previous models (such as B003 or B022 Series), DeskTopBinder V2 couldretrieve copy and print jobs from the document server and convert them to a TIFFformat. However, this software-based conversion was slow for many users.
            So, for this machine, this conversion has been made hardware-based, using theoptional File Format Converter. Without the File Format Converter, copy and printjobs cannot be downloaded to a PC (or e-Cabinet) from the document server.
            Two common target formats are provided for conversion to files that can beselected by the SP modes: JPEG, and TIFF.
            In scanner mode, users can select file format from TIFF, JPEG, or PDF. The timeto create TIFF and JPEG files will be shortened with the File Format Converter,especially for high resolution scanning and large image size. When the customerselects PDF, the machine creates a TIFF or JPEG file from the scanned image firstthen converts it to PDF. So, the total time to create a PDF is also shortened withthe File Format Converter.
            The sRGB color space can be selected in color scanning mode. The color-scanneddata (RGB data) are converted to sRGB color space using the File FormatConverter.

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            • taltmeyer
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2019
              • 8

              #7
              Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

              Hi,

              i didn't know (when i aquired that machine) that it was considered "a dinosaur", "ancient egyptian machine", "Ricoh's worst machine" or in another
              german forum "Pandoras Box". The worst machine i've seen so far was the Canon CLC200/300 series and some ancient Konica machines....

              Anyway, i was able to solve my scan problem. I installed an SMPT Server and got that machine an account there so it can mail the scans.
              The configuration of the server (especially forwarding the mails to another IMAP box) was a little bit tricky.

              My magenta development problem was the backside gear not engaging properly, resettling the developer unit solved that problem.

              The smear problem in the duplex unit was an unidentifyable piece of crap in the paper pathway and the slight image skew seems
              to be a problem with the paper registration roller in the magazin.

              to Brianneoe:

              I'll check this out, a file format converter is installed in the machine.

              Does someone have documentation about that small maintenance shell wich is reachable with a telnet-command to the machine?

              Regards,
              Thomas Altmeyer

              I thinke there may be some commands wich a excluded in the internal help file of it... ?!?

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              • taltmeyer
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2019
                • 8

                #8
                Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                Hi,

                i didn't know (when i aquired that machine) that it was considered "a dinosaur", "ancient egyptian machine", "Ricoh's worst machine" or in another
                german forum "Pandoras Box". The worst machine i've seen so far was the Canon CLC200/300 series and some ancient Konica machines....


                Anyway, i was able to solve my scan problem. I installed an SMPT Server and got that machine an account there so it can mail the scans.
                The configuration of the server (especially forwarding the mails to another IMAP box) was a little bit tricky.


                My magenta development problem was the backside gear not engaging properly, resettling the developer unit solved that problem.


                The smear problem in the duplex unit was an unidentifyable piece of crap in the paper pathway and the slight image skew seems
                to be a problem with the paper registration roller in the magazin.

                to Brianneoe: I'll check this out, a file format converter is installed in the machine.

                Does someone have documentation about that small maintenance shell wich is reachable with a telnet-command to the machine?
                I think there may be some commands wich are excluded in the internal help file of it... ?!?

                Regards,

                Thomas Altmeyer
                Last edited by taltmeyer; 03-03-2019, 07:33 PM.

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                • slimslob
                  Retired

                  Site Contributor
                  25,000+ Posts
                  • May 2013
                  • 35067

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                  Originally posted by taltmeyer
                  Hi,

                  i didn't know (when i aquired that machine) that it was considered "a dinosaur", "ancient egyptian machine", "Ricoh's worst machine" or in another
                  german forum "Pandoras Box". The worst machine i've seen so far was the Canon CLC200/300 series and some ancient Konica machines....


                  Anyway, i was able to solve my scan problem. I installed an SMPT Server and got that machine an account there so it can mail the scans.
                  The configuration of the server (especially forwarding the mails to another IMAP box) was a little bit tricky.


                  My magenta development problem was the backside gear not engaging properly, resettling the developer unit solved that problem.


                  The smear problem in the duplex unit was an unidentifyable piece of crap in the paper pathway and the slight image skew seems
                  to be a problem with the paper registration roller in the magazin.

                  to Brianneoe: I'll check this out, a file format converter is installed in the machine.

                  Does someone have documentation about that small maintenance shell wich is reachable with a telnet-command to the machine?
                  I think there may be some commands wich are excluded in the internal help file of it... ?!?

                  Regards,

                  Thomas Altmeyer
                  Good luck when the machine crashes a HDD and you can't get a replacement.

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                  • Oze
                    Ricoh Fanboy

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1663

                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                    [QUOTE=Brianneoe;733689]I had a customer a while back who needed to upload off the doc server to their PC. We used this option. Look on the controller side of the machine and see if there is a board in the slot that the wireless option would go in."
                    You CLEARLY don't realise that this model of machine was around BEFORE wireless was invented

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                    • jonhiker
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 661

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                      I didn't think that any parts or supplies are even available for this darn box.

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                      • sturmtrooper
                        Copier Combobulator

                        500+ Posts
                        • May 2016
                        • 589

                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        Good luck when the machine crashes a HDD and you can't get a replacement.
                        Did it use a special interface or was it just a regular 40gb IDE hard drive? I did see a bulletin for the machine that Ricoh had started (and no longer) makes a "special" HDD that is 80gb but only reports as 40gb. Likely just through partitioning.

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                        • slimslob
                          Retired

                          Site Contributor
                          25,000+ Posts
                          • May 2013
                          • 35067

                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                          Originally posted by sturmtrooper
                          Did it use a special interface or was it just a regular 40gb IDE hard drive? I did see a bulletin for the machine that Ricoh had started (and no longer) makes a "special" HDD that is 80gb but only reports as 40gb. Likely just through partitioning.
                          As I remember it is 2 drives operating in parallel. They had a special formatting that installed coding that identified whether it was drive A or drive B. Due to the parallel operation, they had to be replaced as a set. Due to the special coding they had to come from Ricoh as a set.

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                          • taltmeyer
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                            Hi,

                            the harddisk in my machine is an IBM Deskstar with 40GB and a Jumpersetting for 16 Heads.
                            This harddisk was installed in many Windows2000-Pentium 3 Desktop Systems,
                            there is nothing unusual about it.
                            I opened the controllerboard because I had problem with the FAX module, all Video data was garbage.
                            The connector to the controller board was the culprit.
                            Afterwards i was promptly rewarded with the machine throwing a SC672 on me, i forgot to
                            reconnect power to the harddisk.....

                            Regards,
                            Thomas Altmeyer

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                            • anothertech
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1715

                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh 1224C Network scanning question

                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              As I remember it is 2 drives operating in parallel. They had a special formatting that installed coding that identified whether it was drive A or drive B. Due to the parallel operation, they had to be replaced as a set. Due to the special coding they had to come from Ricoh as a set.
                              Ricoh told me in MPC6000 training that we had to replace the drives as a set from Ricoh, that turned out to not be the case. We always put in whatever we had around, as long as both drives were the same size and model.

                              I don't know if all Ricoh models are the same.

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