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  • Mark Bbb
    Service Manager

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    • Jun 2012
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    mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

    Hoi,
    Machine had a good QA here in shop, but after delivery magenta white bands (cfr example) occured.
    all color pcdu = 75K
    Total counter = ap. 300K.
    Have cleaned the magenta pcdu and charge roller (was not dirty).
    Thank you for helping.
    mpc3003 Allimex na levering.pdf
  • fshead
    Service Manager

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    • Jan 2009
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    #2
    Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

    i ve found when i move machines sometimes the developer units get some "clumps and bigger particles kicked up"
    sorta like running you car till empty and all that nasty stuff pops up.
    depending on how much will tell you what you need to do..
    Pull your drum and ck the dev unit mag brush.
    of course you did the wand 1st?

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    • Mark Bbb
      Service Manager

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      • Jun 2012
      • 1662

      #3
      Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

      Originally posted by fshead
      i ve found when i move machines sometimes the developer units get some "clumps and bigger particles kicked up"
      sorta like running you car till empty and all that nasty stuff pops up.
      depending on how much will tell you what you need to do..
      Pull your drum and ck the dev unit mag brush.
      of course you did the wand 1st?
      fs: i know that cleaning the doctor blade is a solution for white lines, but I have never done this before.
      Do you think that this problem is due to a dirty doctor blade?

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      • fshead
        Service Manager

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        • Jan 2009
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        #4
        Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

        Originally posted by Mark Bbb
        fs: i know that cleaning the doctor blade is a solution for white lines, but I have never done this before.
        Do you think that this problem is due to a dirty doctor blade?
        I ve seen it with moved machines and machines sitting to long in warehouse..
        If there is voids on the mag roller brush there will be voids..
        there are many options to fix this on here ..

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        • ABS tect
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Sep 2013
          • 509

          #5
          Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

          I swear 95% of my service calls on the '03 series is related to the Magenta in some way....Mostly ends in me replacing the Magenta PCDU.

          I agree with everyone else that you have some buildup on the doctor blade and i usually clean that by inserting a piece of paper in-between that and the mag roller while turning it to clear it...Not guaranteed that it wont come back though...But you said you already did that??

          Unfortunately as far as i'm concerned they don't sell just the developer for this unit like they did on models in the past. You have to buy a whole new developer unit which is a bit pricey. I usually just replace the whole unit from parts machines in my shop.

          If it does this with a new unit then there is something on the laser slit glass on top or underneath it.

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          • Mark Bbb
            Service Manager

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            • Jun 2012
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            #6
            Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

            Originally posted by ABS tect
            I swear 95% of my service calls on the '03 series is related to the Magenta in some way....Mostly ends in me replacing the Magenta PCDU.

            I agree with everyone else that you have some buildup on the doctor blade and i usually clean that by inserting a piece of paper in-between that and the mag roller while turning it to clear it...Not guaranteed that it wont come back though...But you said you already did that??

            Unfortunately as far as i'm concerned they don't sell just the developer for this unit like they did on models in the past. You have to buy a whole new developer unit which is a bit pricey. I usually just replace the whole unit from parts machines in my shop.

            If it does this with a new unit then there is something on the laser slit glass on top or underneath it.
            ABS: thanks for your reply. I have started with cleaning the laser glass, no good. I have try to clean the black doctor blade, no good, but it could be i'm doing it wrong. In how many cases you had positive result by cleaning a doctor blade?

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            • Mark Bbb
              Service Manager

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              • Jun 2012
              • 1662

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              Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

              Originally posted by fshead
              I ve seen it with moved machines and machines sitting to long in warehouse..
              If there is voids on the mag roller brush there will be voids..
              there are many options to fix this on here ..
              fs: thanks for your reply. And one of these fixing solutions is cleaning the doctor blade? In how many cases you had succesfully cleaned one?

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              • Mark Bbb
                Service Manager

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                • Jun 2012
                • 1662

                #8
                Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                ABS: thanks for your reply. I have started with cleaning the laser glass, no good. I have try to clean the black doctor blade, no good, but it could be i'm doing it wrong. In how many cases you had positive result by cleaning a doctor blade?
                I have cleaned the black doctor blade because there is also a white line in black... (look at photograph)
                It didn't help, so i have not cleaned the magenta D.B. at all.
                You see?

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                • ABS tect
                  Senior Tech

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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 509

                  #9
                  Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                  Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                  ABS: thanks for your reply. I have started with cleaning the laser glass, no good. I have try to clean the black doctor blade, no good, but it could be i'm doing it wrong. In how many cases you had positive result by cleaning a doctor blade?
                  Usually just comes back and is a headache to have to do it over and over again...since i keep several backups in stock i've learned to just replace the whole unit.
                  75k is very early though for this to start occuring....are you using OEM toner?

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                  • fshead
                    Service Manager

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                    • Jan 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                    you can empty the dev unit and sieve it clean or you can a bag of developer..
                    Yes I have seen sets of developer offered for the 03..Might be chinese knock offs but i have bought a lot
                    of chinese stuff and a lot looks just like rico oem even wth the exact PN etc and packaging.
                    Lets face it very little is MADE IN JAPAN, just like very little is MADE IN USA..
                    It all about quality control...

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                    • Mark Bbb
                      Service Manager

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                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1662

                      #11
                      Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                      Originally posted by ABS tect
                      Usually just comes back and is a headache to have to do it over and over again...since i keep several backups in stock i've learned to just replace the whole unit.
                      75k is very early though for this to start occuring....are you using OEM toner?
                      Only OEM toner.

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                      • fshead
                        Service Manager

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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2356

                        #12
                        Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                        I just redid ny previous search and yes I found mpc3003 bags of developer.
                        If you need link just PM

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                        • Polarbear
                          Service Manager

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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1070

                          #13
                          Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                          Hi

                          Just for shits and giggles, did you check the laser unit slit glasses? I have found that transport can cause toner to fall on the laser unit and this causes white lines in the print area, even when the device left the shop with perfect prints.

                          These are however prone to toner clumping (as said in previous posts).

                          Just be careful with their drum units as they are mighty costly if compared to say for instance the MPC2003 units.
                          Press the GREEN button!!

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                          • fshead
                            Service Manager

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                            • Jan 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                            If so inspired you can find aftermarket drums,drum blades,lub bars etc etc and i think even rebuild kits..
                            I looking to order some now and am trying to stay wth the darker color ones made in Japan..

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                            • Mark Bbb
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1662

                              #15
                              Re: mpc3003 magenta saturation after delivery

                              Originally posted by fshead
                              I just redid ny previous search and yes I found mpc3003 bags of developer.
                              If you need link just PM
                              fs: how difficult is it to open (and afterwards close) this development unit?
                              One need a oyster shucking knife?
                              Have you succesfully replaced developer jet on a mpc3003?

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