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  • mo.salama
    Technician
    • May 2019
    • 16

    [Error Code] Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

    I'm having a problem with Rich mp2000 It is just about double-sided print or copy "Duplex" . The paper take the first side Well and without any problems and back to the duplex unit in the right door This is a half-duplex process and is done" very well" but after that and during the paper turnover in the side door to enter again to The machine to copy the another side it just stop without any jaming!!
    I kept thinking for a long time that this problem was mechanical As is already mostly due to dust, heavy movement and pulleys But I tried almost everything, so I replaced the right door of the entire machine, including the duplex unit inside
    The side door it works better than the previous door and is tightly sealed with the machine more than before, but the duplex still does not work.
    .....
    I photographed where the paper stands specifically for the problem to be clear. I wish the help from a professional person. I have the talent of jaw and installation and maintenance and I have the patience to try any solution.
    .....
    Unfortunately I'm Egyptian!, that means a little resources, Money، even happiness and means a lot of thieves who do not know anything about anything and if someone of them dismantled and installed a mobile cover! he ask you to call him Mr.Engineer
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  • 8T2
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Aug 2015
    • 257

    #2
    Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

    My guess would be a dirty sensor.

    Sent from my ALE-L02 using Tapatalk

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    • mo.salama
      Technician
      • May 2019
      • 16

      #3
      Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

      Originally posted by 8T2
      My guess would be a dirty sensor.

      Sent from my ALE-L02 using Tapatalk
      I will try to humor and clean it as much as possible .. thank you

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      • NeoMatrix
        Senior Tech.

        2,500+ Posts
        • Nov 2010
        • 3514

        #4
        Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

        First impression is paper timing?Wrong paper size setting???I Don't know... might jog a light bulb in someone.Check the doors are staying closed.Sent via phone.
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        • gear13z
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Sep 2011
          • 68

          #5
          Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

          take a look on registration sensor & clean the sensor, also the exit sensor, another way is, go to sp mode, 7807-execute, restart machine, then do photocopy, the machine will misfeed again, clear the misfeed, cancel the copying job, go to sp mode, 5990. look for logging data, then print, from there under sp mode 7504. you can see which sensor is faulty. good luck.
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          • mo.salama
            Technician
            • May 2019
            • 16

            #6
            Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
            First impression is paper timing?Wrong paper size setting???I Don't know... might jog a light bulb in someone.Check the doors are staying closed.Sent via phone.
            I was thinking about this just yesterday, because during My attempts, when I adjusted the direction of paper in the primary paper tray between height and width , the machine stopped mainly from copy the paper, When he chose lengthwise, not just the duplex.

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            And come back to work when he chose widthwise
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            Here I made sure there was an error in the settings.

            the paper is coped already but the machine stopped Before the paper is completely out from the exit set, or even after the paper has come out directly Then the machine does not follow the copying and stops (this is all when adjusting the paper position).

            so .. i well stop the Mechanical repair attempts, and start repair attempts by settings, But I'm afraid to cause more damage, because the machine works very well in normal copying and bypass copying , only duplexes has problem, in which case it partially fulfills the work, but with system software errors, all my work will stop completely ..

            HOWEVER .. i'll trying to do that carefully and let you know the results .. until that : I thank everyone who is very interested in the reply. Especially that my English is weak and I use verbal translation sometimes so I can communicate, unfortunately there is no real help or experience in Arabic. So I will be very thankful for the follow-up and attention

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            • mo.salama
              Technician
              • May 2019
              • 16

              #7
              Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

              Originally posted by gear13z
              take a look on registration sensor & clean the sensor, also the exit sensor,

              (ِA) about registration sensor
              1- I've disassembled it outside the machine and cleaned it
              2- run the machine without installing it and it stopped in all cases (normal or duplex mode ) so i think the sensor not damage

              (B) about exit sensor
              it is hard to disassemble it outside the machine as the registration sensor but i think it is working because if it's not working the machine doesn't finish the bypass copying also because this sensor working in bypass as duplex to.

              (C)
              Originally posted by gear13z
              another way is, go to sp mode, 7807-execute, restart machine, then do photocopy, the machine will misfeed again, clear the misfeed, cancel the copying job, go to sp mode, 5990. look for logging data, then print, from there under sp mode 7504. you can see which sensor is faulty. good luck.
              all i remember to login into sp mods is
              button yellow c
              107
              button red c
              but i don't understand what the ( 7807 - execute ) mean ?! but i'll look at Google to understand what is that mean

              (D) The part referred to in the red arrow is a little dirty in the machine, but if there is a malfunction in this part, I think the machine would stop pulling the paper either in duplexes or elsewhere, anyway I will disassemble the machine and clean this part too
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              • rbazan
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Dec 2013
                • 70

                #8
                Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                The rubber bushing is probably melted and causing the junction gate to stick- clean/check the junction gate solenoid in the ADF.

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                • rbazan
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 70

                  #9
                  Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                  [QUOTE=rbazan;757219]The rubber bushing is probably melted and causing the junction gate to stick- clean/check the junction solenoid.

                  I mean check the solenoid in the Duplex ass'y.

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                  • COPIERMAN
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 553

                    #10
                    Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                    watch your you tube video the paper is starting to come out of duplex at bottom when it stops. You said have change rt side door. I would check sensors in that rt side door. go to service mode then do 5-803 which is input check. look at #12 duplex entrance and #13 duplex exit move sensors back and forth watch display should change from 01 to 00 state. you will have to get out of service mode and go back in to look at other one.

                    5.1.8 INPUT CHECK (SP5-803)
                    Conducting an Input Check
                    1. Select SP5-803.
                    2. Select the number (see the table below) corresponding to the component.
                    3. Select "Execute." The copy mode is activated.
                    4. The sign "01H" or "00H" is displayed (see the table below)
                    .
                    Input Check Table
                    Num. Sensor/Switch 01H 00H
                    001 Safety SW Open Closed
                    002 Safety SW-LD 5V Open Closed
                    003 Right Cover SW Open Closed
                    004 Right Low Cover SW Open Closed
                    005 Tray Cover SW Open Closed
                    006 Upper Relay S Paper detected Not detected
                    007 Lower Relay S Paper detected Not detected
                    008 Vertical Trans S Paper detected Not detected
                    009 Registration Sensor Paper detected Not detected
                    010 Exit Sensor Paper detected Not detected
                    011 Duplex Inverter S Paper detected Not detected
                    012 Duplex Entrance S Paper detected is 01H Not detected=00H
                    013 Duplex Exit S Paper detected is01H not detected=00H

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                    • mo.salama
                      Technician
                      • May 2019
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                      [QUOTE=rbazan;757221]
                      Originally posted by rbazan
                      The rubber bushing is probably melted and causing the junction gate to stick- clean/check the junction solenoid.

                      I mean check the solenoid in the Duplex ass'y.
                      it's fine

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                      • mo.salama
                        Technician
                        • May 2019
                        • 16

                        #12
                        Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                        [QUOTE=rbazan;757221]
                        Originally posted by rbazan
                        The rubber bushing is probably melted and causing the junction gate to stick- clean/check the junction solenoid.

                        I mean check the solenoid in the Duplex ass'y.
                        Originally posted by COPIERMAN
                        watch your you tube video the paper is starting to come out of duplex at bottom when it stops. You said have change rt side door. I would check sensors in that rt side door. go to service mode then do 5-803 which is input check. look at #12 duplex entrance and #13 duplex exit move sensors back and forth watch display should change from 01 to 00 state. you will have to get out of service mode and go back in to look at other one.

                        5.1.8 INPUT CHECK (SP5-803)
                        Conducting an Input Check
                        1. Select SP5-803.
                        2. Select the number (see the table below) corresponding to the component.
                        3. Select "Execute." The copy mode is activated.
                        4. The sign "01H" or "00H" is displayed (see the table below)
                        .
                        Input Check Table
                        Num. Sensor/Switch 01H 00H
                        001 Safety SW Open Closed
                        002 Safety SW-LD 5V Open Closed
                        003 Right Cover SW Open Closed
                        004 Right Low Cover SW Open Closed
                        005 Tray Cover SW Open Closed
                        006 Upper Relay S Paper detected Not detected
                        007 Lower Relay S Paper detected Not detected
                        008 Vertical Trans S Paper detected Not detected
                        009 Registration Sensor Paper detected Not detected
                        010 Exit Sensor Paper detected Not detected
                        011 Duplex Inverter S Paper detected Not detected
                        012 Duplex Entrance S Paper detected is 01H Not detected=00H
                        013 Duplex Exit S Paper detected is01H not detected=00H
                        wait a minute .. i know how to inter into service mode but i don't know what i have to do what you say after that . what is that mean ( then do 5-803 which is input check) i didn't find any thing about that in service mode or service machine manual ! how can i do that.
                        there is nice thing if sensors have average that we can reading or changing it from system mode i did not know this, can you show me how to enter to these values ​​in more detail

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                        • slimslob
                          Retired

                          Site Contributor
                          25,000+ Posts
                          • May 2013
                          • 35064

                          #13
                          Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                          Originally posted by mo.salama
                          wait a minute .. i know how to inter into service mode but i don't know what i have to do what you say after that . what is that mean ( then do 5-803 which is input check) i didn't find any thing about that in service mode or service machine manual ! how can i do that.
                          there is nice thing if sensors have average that we can reading or changing it from system mode i did not know this, can you show me how to enter to these values ​​in more detail
                          Try looking in the Service manual under INPUT CHECK. There is also a section for OUTPUT CHECK. If you do not know how to use a service manual, start looking for a different job or if you are an end user, hire someone who does.

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                          • davel
                            Technician

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1045

                            #14
                            Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                            I thought Copierman describes the step by step procedure perfectly, obviously not an experienced tech.

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                            • slimslob
                              Retired

                              Site Contributor
                              25,000+ Posts
                              • May 2013
                              • 35064

                              #15
                              Re: Duplex problem - Ricoh mp2000

                              Originally posted by davel
                              I thought Copierman describes the step by step procedure perfectly, obviously not an experienced tech.
                              My reply and comment was to mo.salama.

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