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  • Debs1964
    Service Manager

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    • Oct 2010
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    MPC305 printing problems

    I have a customer with an MPC305, it's in a small, home office, with only 2 PCs that print to it.

    When they print the device says processing, and sounds like it's going to print, then says resetting and the job disappears. I know the printer is fine as I can print from my tablet with no problem.

    I tried switching off each PC in turn to see if one of them was causing the problem. I set up user codes for printing to ensure all print jobs were properly deleted. I changed the IP address and downloaded a fresh driver onto one of the PCs, so now it's only the new driver pointing at the device...exactly the same issue.

    There's no HDD in this device so I cannot see what happens if I try to print from an external memory device, or try hold/locked prints.

    I know this is not my problem, but they are a nice couple and I don't want to leave them to deal with it themselves as their technical expertise doesn't extend beyond rebooting the PCs.

    The PCs are running Windows 7 professional, they have Norton anti-virus, and are running an anti-malware too. It was pretty late by the time I left there, so I suggested turning off anti-virus and anti-malware and trying again, but I don't know if that is going to work.

    If anyone has any further suggestions for them then I'll call them to get them to try it. I won't be able to go back there until next week now as I have the joys of IMC training for the next 2 days, then 2 days off :-)
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  • DonPedro
    Technician
    • Feb 2019
    • 14

    #2
    Re: MPC305 printing problems

    Firmware are up to date ? Print driver was universal or pcl6? There is printing problem with colour, mono or both ?

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    • Debs1964
      Service Manager

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      • Oct 2010
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      #3
      Re: MPC305 printing problems

      Originally posted by DonPedro
      Firmware are up to date ? Print driver was universal or pcl6? There is printing problem with colour, mono or both ?
      Firmware is up to date. Print driver is PCL6 for that device. The printing problem is from, both, colour and mono.
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      • tinfox
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        • Nov 2007
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        #4
        Re: MPC305 printing problems

        Static ip?

        Sent from my moto e5 supra using Tapatalk

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        • DonPedro
          Technician
          • Feb 2019
          • 14

          #5
          Re: MPC305 printing problems

          Printer is installed using IP addr / host name / wsd port? Printer is connected to router via wifi or it's wired connection ?

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          • copier tech
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            • Jan 2014
            • 7934

            #6
            Re: MPC305 printing problems

            You said firmware is up to date is this ALL the files?

            Does the machine delete all printed documents? eg Word, PDF & Windows test page?

            I had something similar with Auto Continue, when it is On, printing continues after a system error occurs.

            The default setting is [Off] if this is on it deletes the job maybe due to paper mismatch etc.

            What does the printer log show?

            Executing Form Feed when Print Settings Do Not Match





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            • Debs1964
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              • Oct 2010
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              #7
              Re: MPC305 printing problems

              It's on a static IP
              It's a wired connection, not WiFi, and the driver is installed to IP address
              All of the firmware is up to date, that was the first thing I did before connecting my tablet.
              I could ask them to look at auto continue, but as it has been printing fine for the past 5 years, until this morning, I'm not convinced it will work.
              Yes, it deletes all formats, including test page.
              I think the printer log showed 'error', and the ones that came in while I had user codes enabled showed 'unauthorised', but I can't remember the exact wording for them
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              • DonPedro
                Technician
                • Feb 2019
                • 14

                #8
                Re: MPC305 printing problems

                Maybe wire or port in router is faulty?
                I had similar problem in older mfp. The job was "lost in space" and changing port in router solved the problem.

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                • FrohnB
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                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1919

                  #9
                  Re: MPC305 printing problems

                  I know the HDD is an option for this series, but could that be part of the issue (not having it). Are they trying to duplex print (or "print on both sides" selected in driver?) Not sure we've ever had one of these that didn't have the HDD installed, so I can't speak to its mannerisms without having one. I just know on some models you can't duplex and some other things without the HDD.

                  You say that you can print to it just fine from your tablet, so that would maybe "rule out" the HDD theory.

                  Did you plug directly into the copier to print with your tablet (bypassing their router and all that)?? I had an issue with a C2051 at a rail repair office that did the same thing. Job would hit the machine, make the warm up noises, then say resetting the job. Laptop directly hooked up printed fine. Worked with customers Remote IT and they watched that data on their end and came to the conclusion that the port on the router couldn't handle the "load" of data (20 page print job). Switched the port on the router and Woofta! Printing fine.
                  Omertà

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                  • Debs1964
                    Service Manager

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                    • Oct 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: MPC305 printing problems

                    Originally posted by FrohnB
                    I know the HDD is an option for this series, but could that be part of the issue (not having it). Are they trying to duplex print (or "print on both sides" selected in driver?) Not sure we've ever had one of these that didn't have the HDD installed, so I can't speak to its mannerisms without having one. I just know on some models you can't duplex and some other things without the HDD.

                    You say that you can print to it just fine from your tablet, so that would maybe "rule out" the HDD theory.

                    Did you plug directly into the copier to print with your tablet (bypassing their router and all that)?? I had an issue with a C2051 at a rail repair office that did the same thing. Job would hit the machine, make the warm up noises, then say resetting the job. Laptop directly hooked up printed fine. Worked with customers Remote IT and they watched that data on their end and came to the conclusion that the port on the router couldn't handle the "load" of data (20 page print job). Switched the port on the router and Woofta! Printing fine.
                    This sounds like a very good possibility even though it's failing on, even, single page documents. Your one did exactly the same as mine is doing.
                    I did connect my tablet directly to the copier, bypassing their router, and printed double sided from my tablet, so it's nothing to do with the lack of HDD. They have been using it for 5 years with no problems, but I have no idea how old, or good, their router is, as this is a home network, I suspect it's probably poor quality and pretty old. I'll call them tomorrow from my course and suggest they try a different port. I'll let you know if that works, thank you
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                    • guitar9199
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                      • Sep 2016
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                      #11
                      Re: MPC305 printing problems

                      "Unauthorized" usually leads me to think the User Codes are entered incorrectly. If they try to print with a wrong User Code, it'll do exactly as you described... Data light flash/machine comes up/job gets deleted.

                      Turn the User Codes completely off...including in the print driver on one of the PC's and see if that doesn't make it work.

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                      • slimslob
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                        • May 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: MPC305 printing problems

                        A five year old network switch could be a problem. I had an almond plant a few years ago where an MP C2551 would stop receiving jobs after setting idle for a few minutes. They would cycle power and the C2551 would print everything that was currently queued. Then if it was idle for about 5 minutes would again go back to not receiving jobs. We tried replacing everything on the C2551 with no luck so told them it had to be something on the network. They had another C2551 so they swapped the two machines, including IP addresses. The problem stayed with the location, not the machine. They replaced a 5 years old 36 port switch and the problem was gone. Also a couple of users also stopped having trouble accessing the internet.

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                        • slimslob
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                          #13
                          Re: MPC305 printing problems

                          Originally posted by guitar9199
                          "Unauthorized" usually leads me to think the User Codes are entered incorrectly. If they try to print with a wrong User Code, it'll do exactly as you described... Data light flash/machine comes up/job gets deleted.

                          Turn the User Codes completely off...including in the print driver on one of the PC's and see if that doesn't make it work.
                          If network masking is set up on the C305, it could also indicate a job from an "Unauthorized" IP address.

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                          • Debs1964
                            Service Manager

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                            #14
                            Re: MPC305 printing problems

                            Originally posted by guitar9199
                            "Unauthorized" usually leads me to think the User Codes are entered incorrectly. If they try to print with a wrong User Code, it'll do exactly as you described... Data light flash/machine comes up/job gets deleted.

                            Turn the User Codes completely off...including in the print driver on one of the PC's and see if that doesn't make it work.
                            Unauthorised was only there when I put user codes on in order to properly delete the job that was continually being sent, I then left it on so that I could use a new driver, with code entered, just so I knew only my job was allowed to print. This customer do not use user codes, it is a couple in their home office, no need for codes. I turned them off again once I'd used them for troubleshooting
                            There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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                            • TonerMunkeh
                              Professional Moron

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                              • Apr 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: MPC305 printing problems

                              Has the port changed to WSD?
                              It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                              Hit it.

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