B022 Drum Unit Retrofit

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  • unisys12
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 489

    #1

    B022 Drum Unit Retrofit

    Can a B022 drum unit (in my case, a Savin Type 1027) be placed in a B089 (Savin 4022) or a B205 (Savin 8025) and work with no "long term effects". Yeah, I know! This isn't called a retrofit, but it was the only name I could come up with.

    What started us wondering was a few Lanier models that we got in, on wholesale, that had B022 drum units in them. At first we thought it was placed there because to wholesale a machine, it only has to pass paper. And that they did. The first machine that had this older drum unit in it, had good copy quality so we didn't think a lot about it. Just wrote it off as "One of those wholesale tricks!". The next one, we stopped and figured that something was up! I ran a few hundred copies and the quality was fine throughout, so this leads me to ask...

    Have any of you guys used this older drum unit in any of the new machines with good long term results?

    If so, the savings could far out way the risks. Ok, well maybe! I mean, if you only get like a 10k out of one, then yeah.... we will keep rebuilding and replacing lower dev units every other rebuild. But if not... well, that might just open a vault of savings that could help a lot of folks!

    We have placed a 1027 drum unit in one 4027, in the field, that is placed in a low volume environment (less than 3k a month) and one in a 8030 we spotted in the shop. This one is going in a normal environment of about 5-7k a month. We will see!

    Just wanted to get others input on this.
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  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3865

    #2
    As a company we put the 1027 type PCU in ALL the Russian variations from the C2 (1027) to the C5 (MP2550). They all take the same toner too.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • mikadonovan
      Senior Tech

      Site Contributor
      2,500+ Posts
      • May 2008
      • 2931

      #3
      I have been doing that for a while now with no ill effects.
      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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      • Shadow1
        Service Manager

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        1,000+ Posts
        • Sep 2008
        • 1642

        #4
        Been doing that since they came out with that "rebuildable" PCU that is a booger to rebuild and doesn't last worth a fart in a tornado. Works great - only problem is Ricoh Direct doesn't stock them as a service part anymore - the customer has to order them, so the techs can't "upgrade" the newer machines anymore.
        73 DE W5SSJ

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        • unisys12
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 489

          #5
          Thanks guys! Just when you think you have experimented with everything you can, to save money, we still tend to find little things like this. Thanks again.
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          • rthonpm
            Field Supervisor

            2,500+ Posts
            • Aug 2007
            • 2854

            #6
            I've got to agree with everyone else. I've also had good luck using them back in the old 5227 (Savin 9927) models. All you do is cut off one extra pin on the 1027 PCU on the front right side (put each unit next to each other and you'll see which one I'm talking about).

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