MP301 PCU's failing constantly

[slimslob]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

Sure, it's a Genuine Supply Source (GSS) product
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But, unfortunately they only distribute across Canada

I checked your link. They are the Canadian distributor for Katun. On May 3rd, 2010, GSS was signed as Katun Corporation's Premier Distributor for Canada.

Katun Corporation World Headquarters
10951 Bush Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN U.S.A. 55438-2391
Toll-free Phone: 1-800-328-2965
Direct-dial Phone: 952-941-9505
Fax: 952-941-4307
E-mail: order@us.katun.com

copyaction, I have used them in the past for rebuild kits for Type 1027 PCUs. Only ones I have used that the cleaning blades didn't go limp in a couple of weeks. If you sign up with them you can use their online catalog or down their PDF catalog. Copier Parts & Drums | Imaging Supplies for Copiers & MFPs |Katun

[sandmanmac]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

I checked your link. They are the Canadian distributor for Katun. On May 3rd, 2010, GSS was signed as Katun Corporation's Premier Distributor for Canada.

Katun Corporation World Headquarters
10951 Bush Lake Road
Minneapolis, MN U.S.A. 55438-2391
Toll-free Phone: 1-800-328-2965
Direct-dial Phone: 952-941-9505
Fax: 952-941-4307
E-mail: order@us.katun.com

copyaction, I have used them in the past for rebuild kits for Type 1027 PCUs. Only ones I have used that the cleaning blades didn't go limp in a couple of weeks. If you sign up with them you can use their online catalog or down their PDF catalog. Copier Parts & Drums | Imaging Supplies for Copiers & MFPs |Katun

That's true, but they also have their own lines of certain products and supplies, and this is one of them that Katun doesn't offer

[KeviM]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

I know it's an old thread, but since it's been re-born, I'll go with it!
This is great info! I've about had it with the PCU's - even the type 1515 that I've always used and previously had excellent success with are a disaster now too .
I was so fed up, that I've actually gone down the road of installing a Generic version of the PCU, and so far I've had better luck than with the Oem's. While I've installed over a dozen in the last few months, I've not had to replace any as yet, so I can't say how long they last exactly, but I've not had any call backs.
As for rebuilding...I appreciate the tips, and I might give that a try too.
It's interesting that you say you're using only 165-170g of toner and have had good success, because according to the label on the bag that my supplier sells for the machine, it's 275g. That's quite a difference, but if it's working well for you, then it only makes sense that it would be much easier on the gears with so much less Dev in the unit.

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Firstly thank you for your feedback on this. Really interesting.

I used to have endless issues with these 1013, 1515 imaging units years ago. I was seriously stuck in a situation with them.1 day After alot of experimenting and time what I found to work best was the tips I gave earlier.

I prefer to use original developer. Seems to be the most reliable. Occasionally I do use generic developer but they have been giving me alot of issues recently. It's so bad that some of my rebuilt 2352/3352 imaging units are not even lasting 500 prints. On the other hand I have a client with a rebuilt 3352 imaging unit and original developer doing over 40k prints within 3 months and it's still perfect. Also using type 28 developer original.

But I would like to try your developer and your tips.

It's interesting that you use 275 grams of developer. I've found that the moment I start going over 185 grams of developer the 1515 imaging unit starts having problems. It either leaks or breaks the developer gears prematurely . That's why I keep it to approximately 165-175 grams of developer.

But like I said in the earlier post, this is just stuff that I've, tested and it works for me. Hope it helps everyone else. Please test it out and try it first (at everyone's own risk)

Again, thank you

[sandmanmac]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

Firstly thank you for your feedback on this. Really interesting.



It's interesting that you use 275 grams of developer. I've found that the moment I start going over 185 grams of developer the 1515 imaging unit starts having problems. It either leaks or breaks the developer gears prematurely . That's why I keep it to approximately 165-175 grams of developer.

But like I said in the earlier post, this is just stuff that I've, tested and it works for me. Hope it helps everyone else. Please test it out and try it first (at everyone's own risk)

Again, thank you

No. I've not actually used this dev. I just posted it to show the grams that are in the bag, and found it surprising based on the weight you've been using.
That's why I suggested your fill weight would be much less stressful on the gears.

That generic dev "says" on the bag that it's 100% oem Identical, but I'd just use the type 28 since you've had good results.
I've also tried the generic type 28 and had awful results too - seems the partical size was too small or something, because it finds its way through the auger seals and into the gears and destroys them

[anothertech]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

No. I've not actually used this dev. I just posted it to show the grams that are in the bag, and found it surprising based on the weight you've been using.
That's why I suggested your fill weight would be much less stressful on the gears.

That generic dev "says" on the bag that it's 100% oem Identical, but I'd just use the type 28 since you've had good results.
I've also tried the generic type 28 and had awful results too - seems the partical size was too small or something, because it finds its way through the auger seals and into the gears and destroys them

Ricoh has a new PCDU. The new PCDU has improved sealing so that the developer does not leak.

[sandmanmac]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

Ricoh has a new PCDU. The new PCDU has improved sealing so that the developer does not leak.

Not sure what you're referring to here...if it's the MP301 PCU, then you mentioned that yesterday....otherwise, we're talking about using generic dev to rebuild the MP3352 PCU's that gives issues. The OEM dev is not an issue when rebuilding.

Those Original PCU's are ridiculously expensive to replace too, so I was always using the type 1027 which gave little to no issues. But for some time, I've also been using a generic version of the 3350 PCU from the same supplier I mentioned earlier that has so far also proven to perform quite well too

[slimslob]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

It's interesting that you use 275 grams of developer. I've found that the moment I start going over 185 grams of developer the 1515 imaging unit starts having problems. It either leaks or breaks the developer gears prematurely . That's why I keep it to approximately 165-175 grams of developer.

But like I said in the earlier post, this is just stuff that I've, tested and it works for me. Hope it helps everyone else. Please test it out and try it first (at everyone's own risk)

Again, thank you

No. I've not actually used this dev. I just posted it to show the grams that are in the bag, and found it surprising based on the weight you've been using.
That's why I suggested your fill weight would be much less stressful on the gears.

The Katun kits for the Type 1027 had a plastic bottle with a line on it for measuring the proper mount of the Ricoh developer they said to use. Turned out that you could do 3 PCU on 2 bags of developer.

[KeviM]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

The Katun kits for the Type 1027 had a plastic bottle with a line on it for measuring the proper mount of the Ricoh developer they said to use. Turned out that you could do 3 PCU on 2 bags of developer.

Yes this is true. I have 2 bottles from kits we bought a few years ago.

[KeviM]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

No. I've not actually used this dev. I just posted it to show the grams that are in the bag, and found it surprising based on the weight you've been using.
That's why I suggested your fill weight would be much less stressful on the gears.

That generic dev "says" on the bag that it's 100% oem Identical, but I'd just use the type 28 since you've had good results.
I've also tried the generic type 28 and had awful results too - seems the partical size was too small or something, because it finds its way through the auger seals and into the gears and destroys them

OK cool. Thanks. 275 grams seems way too much for me for that small developer unit (just my opinion).

If anyone else has tried this developer it would be interesting to share the results with us.

[anothertech]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

Not sure what you're referring to here...if it's the MP301 PCU, then you mentioned that yesterday....otherwise, we're talking about using generic dev to rebuild the MP3352 PCU's that gives issues. The OEM dev is not an issue when rebuilding.

Those Original PCU's are ridiculously expensive to replace too, so I was always using the type 1027 which gave little to no issues. But for some time, I've also been using a generic version of the 3350 PCU from the same supplier I mentioned earlier that has so far also proven to perform quite well too

Sorry, I lost track, I thought everyone was still talking about MP301.

[KeviM]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

Sorry, I lost track, I thought everyone was still talking about MP301.

Yep everyone is talking about MP301 imaging units.

There was a small deviation to 3352 and 1027 imaging units because we were talking about the quality of original and generic developers.

[KeviM]

Re: MP301 PCU's failing constantly

By the way when I talk about rebuilding a MP301 / MP1515 imaging unit I am referring to an original Ricoh unit and not generic. Not sure how rebuilds will work on generic units