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  • sandmanmac
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    • Feb 2009
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    [Misc] Postscript Emulation

    Hi All
    This is an issue that could probably be asked in the connectivity forum, but as I often mention, I deal pretty much exclusively with the Ricoh brand, so I'm always most interested in opinions/ solutions as they relate to the specific brand.

    It's just been brought to my attention that the newest models all seem to have postscript 3 (postscript emulation) as standard, and Adobe Postscript 3 is still available as an option.

    I'm just curious if there is a dramatic difference between the 2, and if the Emulation is sufficient for typical day-to-day use?
    Is it just a matter of the number of fonts that may/ may not be included?

    I've seen some documentation that emulators weren't necessarily that great in years past, but that they are generally fairly sufficient these days.

    I've not sold any of the machines that utilize this feature, but just curious if anyone can offer some insight on it.

    Thanks!
  • slimslob
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    #2
    Re: Postscript Emulation

    From what I understand is that the Postscript 3 emulation is an expansion of PDF Direct and actually has all the fonts and functionality of the full Adobe Postscript 3. What it lacks is the Copyright permission needed to utilize all of them. The Adobe Postscript 3 adds the Copyright.

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    • jhalfhide
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      • Apr 2015
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      #3
      Re: Postscript Emulation

      Only ever deal in true PS nowadays, as Xerox only offer genuine or nothing (which I prefer tbh). Last emulation I dealt with was on Kyocera, who only used emulation and did not offer a genuine PS option.

      We would continually hit issues from clients with fonts, line weights and design drawings etc. Upgrade them to a genuine PS machine and all problems go away.



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      • mrwho
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        • Apr 2009
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        #4
        Re: Postscript Emulation

        The way I see it, emulation is good if your customer needs to print invoices or other office-related stuff, and they need postscript for any reason (printing from Mac or Linux is an example).

        If you goal is to print design stuff, then you need the genuine stuff.
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        • copier tech
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          • Jan 2014
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          #5
          Re: Postscript Emulation

          Originally posted by sandmanmac
          Hi All
          This is an issue that could probably be asked in the connectivity forum, but as I often mention, I deal pretty much exclusively with the Ricoh brand, so I'm always most interested in opinions/ solutions as they relate to the specific brand.

          It's just been brought to my attention that the newest models all seem to have postscript 3 (postscript emulation) as standard, and Adobe Postscript 3 is still available as an option.

          I'm just curious if there is a dramatic difference between the 2, and if the Emulation is sufficient for typical day-to-day use?
          Is it just a matter of the number of fonts that may/ may not be included?

          I've seen some documentation that emulators weren't necessarily that great in years past, but that they are generally fairly sufficient these days.

          I've not sold any of the machines that utilize this feature, but just curious if anyone can offer some insight on it.

          Thanks!
          This is how I decide, so for or general office printing the emulation is fine it does the job reasonably well.

          Typical example small/medium sized office with mainly Windows user & the odd mac user most likely you won't need to splash out on a PS card unless the MAC users are graphic designers etc.

          But ANY sized office with an all MAC environment then you will need to PS option or you will have issues.
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          • jhalfhide
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            #6

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            • sandmanmac
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              #7
              Re: Postscript Emulation

              I appreciate all the input.
              Since I deal exclusively with off lease units, this is helpful info for me when sourcing equipment.
              I guess it's about what I expected.

              I suppose going forward, I'll just continue doing what I've generally been doing, and that is removing/uninstalling the Genuine PS3 cards from machines that I find with it on board when it's not absolutely necessary, and keep them on hand for future sales when it's required.

              Thanks!

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              • copier tech
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                #8
                Re: Postscript Emulation

                Originally posted by sandmanmac
                I appreciate all the input.
                Since I deal exclusively with off lease units, this is helpful info for me when sourcing equipment.
                I guess it's about what I expected.

                I suppose going forward, I'll just continue doing what I've generally been doing, and that is removing/uninstalling the Genuine PS3 cards from machines that I find with it on board when it's not absolutely necessary, and keep them on hand for future sales when it's required.

                Thanks!
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • copyaction
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                  • Oct 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Postscript Emulation

                  Not sure about the very newest models but in the past I have been able to pick them up used on eBay and they did work when installed.

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                  • KenB
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                    • Dec 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Postscript Emulation

                    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                    • slimslob
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                      #11
                      Re: Postscript Emulation

                      There are a few files that are added to the card when installed. There is a thread from a few years ago that gives the name and folder location of the files that need to be deleted.

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                      • sandmanmac
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                        #12
                        Re: Postscript Emulation

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        There are a few files that are added to the card when installed. There is a thread from a few years ago that gives the name and folder location of the files that need to be deleted.
                        That's Correct Tim.
                        Open the SD card and delete the ZOFFYx files in each of the 2 folders and the card is basically new again.
                        It's only necessary to do that if postscript has actually been installed onto the machine. If it has simply been inserted in the SD slot for use, it can be moved from machine to machine without issue

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                        • zed255
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                          #13
                          Re: Postscript Emulation

                          Note that on the newer machines with emulation that installing the genuine PS option appears to remove emulation entirely. You end up having to reinstall firmware to restore emulation. Just an FYI should you decide to do a test drive / comparison of emulation vs genuine on a machine. We have seen this with newly deployed demo units.

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                          • mga
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                            #14
                            Re: Postscript Emulation

                            If you just put card into machine and not register to device you can use in other machine but then the 1st machine will not have ps3. If you register ps3 to 1st device then remove and pass in 2nd device you have message saying software all ready been registered on other device but it will still work if buying used buy unregistered
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                            • Oze
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                              • Jul 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: Postscript Emulation

                              We have a local church that has a fleet of MPC4504ex machines and also a fleet of Macs.
                              For their Graphics Arts dept we installed the PS3 kit but for the rest of their machines we just left them with emulated PS and it seems to work just fine for them.
                              It's been 2 years with little to no issues.

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