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  • Polo-022
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Sep 2007
    • 479

    MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

    I am trying to find a solution to keep this model running like it's
    predecessor MP 201SPF. After 10K. prints from PCU replacement
    a heavy background appears in front and rear page.

    I change some settings :
    SP 2932 Toner Density Control from 0 (normal) to 4 (lighter)
    SP 2921 Toner Supply Mode from 0 (normal) to 2 (fixed)
    SP 2922 Toner Supply Time from 0.5sec (normal) to 0.3sec (less time "on")
    SP 2927 ID Sensor control from 1 (yes) to 0 (no)
    I have no results till today
    Does anyone works on or have a solution to this problem?
    Thanks a lot for any input.
  • Eremite
    Technician
    • Mar 2019
    • 12

    #2
    Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

    Hi, return to defaul this SP and tell current value in SP2-220-4

    PCDU and Toner is original?

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    • FrohnB
      Service Manager

      Site Contributor
      1,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2017
      • 1919

      #3
      Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

      If you're using the D127xxxx PCDU.....you will generally only get 10 - 15k from those units.
      Use the 411844 PCDU's. RICOH doesn't make these anymore, so we get them from an aftermarket supplier.
      Nothing you can do except replace that PCDU unit.
      Omertà

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      • Polo-022
        Trusted Tech

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        • Sep 2007
        • 479

        #4
        Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

        Originally posted by Eremite
        Hi, return to defaul this SP and tell current value in SP2-220-4

        PCDU and Toner is original?
        Original, both.

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        • Polo-022
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Sep 2007
          • 479

          #5
          Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

          Originally posted by FrohnB
          If you're using the D127xxxx PCDU.....you will generally only get 10 - 15k from those units.
          Use the 411844 PCDU's. RICOH doesn't make these anymore, so we get them from an aftermarket supplier.
          Nothing you can do except replace that PCDU unit.
          What to you think make's the difference between 411844 and D127-xxxx?
          The only thing i would suspect is the TD Sensor, or not?

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          • Eremite
            Technician
            • Mar 2019
            • 12

            #6
            Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

            I'll write everything at once.

            Check the Vt value.
            If Vt is normal (about 2,5v) - developer is dead.
            You can replace PCDU or replace the developer to type 28, but only 270g from package.
            Also inspect and clean gears and bearings of augers into the developer unit.
            If gears are broken, replace them whit a compatible one.
            Gears and bearings must be lubricated.
            After replacement initialize the developer.

            if Vt is less than 1, you have overtone.

            Do not use PCDU from 1515 in MP301 because the developer is different

            P.S. sorry for my english, this is not my native language.

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            • mga
              Copier Technician

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              1,000+ Posts
              • Dec 2010
              • 1393

              #7
              Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

              Originally posted by Eremite
              I'll write everything at once.

              Check the Vt value.
              If Vt is normal (about 2,5v) - developer is dead.
              You can replace PCDU or replace the developer to type 28, but only 270g from package.
              Also inspect and clean gears and bearings of augers into the developer unit.
              If gears are broken, replace them whit a compatible one.
              Gears and bearings must be lubricated.
              After replacement initialize the developer.

              if Vt is less than 1, you have overtone.

              Do not use PCDU from 1515 in MP301 because the developer is different

              P.S. sorry for my english, this is not my native language.
              The developer is the same. Type 28 developer is for the Russian series
              Regards Mark

              FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

              RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

              https://copierservices.simdif.com

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              • mga
                Copier Technician

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Dec 2010
                • 1393

                #8
                Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                Originally posted by Polo-022
                I am trying to find a solution to keep this model running like it's
                predecessor MP 201SPF. After 10K. prints from PCU replacement
                a heavy background appears in front and rear page.

                I change some settings :
                SP 2932 Toner Density Control from 0 (normal) to 4 (lighter)
                SP 2921 Toner Supply Mode from 0 (normal) to 2 (fixed)
                SP 2922 Toner Supply Time from 0.5sec (normal) to 0.3sec (less time "on")
                SP 2927 ID Sensor control from 1 (yes) to 0 (no)
                I have no results till today
                Does anyone works on or have a solution to this problem?
                Thanks a lot for any input.
                I Look after loads of these machines very reliable just put all setting back to default then fit oem d127 pcdu should automatically run setup if unsure just run dev setup
                Regards Mark

                FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                • Eremite
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                  do you mean that the MP301 toner (and developer) is different for Russia and Europe?

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                  • mga
                    Copier Technician

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1393

                    #10
                    Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                    Originally posted by Eremite
                    do you mean that the MP301 toner (and developer) is different for Russia and Europe?
                    No I said type 28 developer is for the Russian series that is the product name for that Ricoh photocopier series
                    Regards Mark

                    FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                    RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                    https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                    • mikadonovan
                      Senior Tech

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • May 2008
                      • 2936

                      #11
                      Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                      Originally posted by Eremite
                      do you mean that the MP301 toner (and developer) is different for Russia and Europe?

                      Here's an old list.
                      Attached Files
                      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                      • Eremite
                        Technician
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 12

                        #12
                        Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                        Originally posted by mga
                        No I said type 28 developer is for the Russian series that is the product name for that Ricoh photocopier series
                        Heh) I forgot about this model and didn't understand you, because I am Russian.))
                        But this developer can be used in MP301, if original developer had been dead after 10k pages, it's cheaper than buying a new PCDU

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                        • Polo-022
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 479

                          #13
                          Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                          Well, i think my post took a wrong path...who wants to change
                          developer and...what type it is!
                          If normal settings are correct, why PCU'S last only 10K. prints?
                          I don't care about worn gears...it's another story...

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                          • Eremite
                            Technician
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                            Originally posted by Polo-022
                            Well, i think my post took a wrong path...who wants to change
                            developer and...what type it is!
                            If normal settings are correct, why PCU'S last only 10K. prints?
                            I don't care about worn gears...it's another story...
                            This PCDU really has a resource issue in last time. 10-20k print before the developer dies or gears...((
                            I often meet similar defects and solve them, as I wrote earlier. After repair they work more 45k pages


                            Type 28 - B1219640
                            Last edited by Eremite; 10-28-2020, 09:02 PM.

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                            • FrohnB
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 1919

                              #15
                              Re: MP 301SPF Toner Density/High Background

                              Originally posted by Polo-022
                              Well, i think my post took a wrong path...who wants to change
                              developer and...what type it is!
                              If normal settings are correct, why PCU'S last only 10K. prints?
                              I don't care about worn gears...it's another story...
                              They only last 10k because they are junk!
                              When we first started selling this series, it only took about a month before we had a rash of failures at about 10 - 15k with the PCDU's. No matter what you do, you can't "bring it back" to normal, except for replacing the unit. Replacing just the developer might work for a short while, but not a sure-fire solution. Shortly after realizing the units suck, we found out that you can put the 411844 (Type 1515) PCU's in the MP 301 machines (break off a pin on the frame of the machine that meshes with the face-plate of the PCDU). Ever since then, we've had them go to the actual 45k yield they are rated for. Not sure what they did to the D127xxxx units, but as I said, they are JUNK, and we refuse to use them!! Have lodged MANY complaints with RICOH about them, but nothing has ever been done.
                              Omertà

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