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  • cucuklotz
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    • Mar 2007
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    Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

    Hi
    I saw on copytechnet.com post in the past that this is a Toner Recycling Error.
    I went to machine today but not sure how to get to assembly and sensor to clean.
    I have been trying to purchase The Service manual/Parts for this machine online.I brought 2 manuals to download
    a little while ago($20 waste) .They are not showing anything about toner recycling mechanism so it is not
    helpful. Does anyone know where I can purchase a reliable service manual with disassembly included?
    I`m having trouble finding any manuals on this model.
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
    ANDY
  • slimslob
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    Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

    You should have put a post in the Service Manual Request forum before paying for one online. https://www.copytechnet.com/forums/s...nual-requests/
    The problem with many of the sites that sell manuals is that frequently what you end up getting is the Operator Manual that you can get for free from Ricoh. That all being said you can download the actual service manual from Manuals Lib RICOH B064 SERVICE MANUAL Pdf Download | ManualsLib or you can private message me with your email address so I can send you the Service Manual, Parts Catalog and Point-to-Point manual.

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    • sandmanmac
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      #3
      Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

      Originally posted by cucuklotz
      Hi
      I saw on copytechnet.com post in the past that this is a Toner Recycling Error.
      I went to machine today but not sure how to get to assembly and sensor to clean.
      I have been trying to purchase The Service manual/Parts for this machine online.I brought 2 manuals to download
      a little while ago($20 waste) .They are not showing anything about toner recycling mechanism so it is not
      helpful. Does anyone know where I can purchase a reliable service manual with disassembly included?
      I`m having trouble finding any manuals on this model.
      THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
      ANDY
      First of all, I assume you mean C2051? Correct?
      Man, I'm sorry but it's a pet peeve of mine that people can't take the time to post the correct/ complete model number of the machine they need help with.
      2nd.....I'm not sure what "manuals" you supposedly bought, but they're apparently NOT service manuals.
      For old machines like that, they are SO easy to find for free with a quick search.
      I found at least 4 places in about 20 seconds.

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      • slimslob
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        Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

        Originally posted by sandmanmac
        First of all, I assume you mean C2051? Correct?
        Man, I'm sorry but it's a pet peeve of mine that people can't take the time to post the correct/ complete model number of the machine they need help with.
        2nd.....I'm not sure what "manuals" you supposedly bought, but they're apparently NOT service manuals.
        For old machines like that, they are SO easy to find for free with a quick search.
        I found at least 4 places in about 20 seconds.
        I believe he has an old martini series, B163 Aficio 2051, same as the Gestetner DSM651, Lanier LD151 and Savin 4051.

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        • sandmanmac
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          Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

          Originally posted by slimslob
          I believe he has an old martini series, B163 Aficio 2051, same as the Gestetner DSM651, Lanier LD151 and Savin 4051.
          Thanks Slim, and with that, my apologies to the poster as well.
          I'm pretty sure you're correct on that.
          I got Waste toner in my head, instead of recycled toner somehow , and the code is related to the water toner motor on a color model I believe.
          Thanks for straightening me out

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          • slimslob
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            Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

            Originally posted by sandmanmac
            Thanks Slim, and with that, my apologies to the poster as well.
            I'm pretty sure you're correct on that.
            I got Waste toner in my head, instead of recycled toner somehow , and the code is related to the water toner motor on a color model I believe.
            Thanks for straightening me out
            At least it is not the really old Aficio 551 and what we called the waste toner gun.

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            • rthonpm
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              • Aug 2007
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              Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

              Originally posted by slimslob
              At least it is not the really old Aficio 551 and what we called the waste toner gun.
              A gun is too good for that machine. Needs to suffer like it made techs suffer back in its time.

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              • mikadonovan
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                Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

                Pull off the rear cover and swing out the controller, remove the flywheel if needed. There is a white recycling tube that transports the toner from back of the transfer assy down to the bottle. Take off the belt (take a picture first) and remove the housing the tube is attached to, only 1 or 2 screws. You can then pull it up and out. Clean the sensor the chopper disk runs through. The auger assembly you just pulled is usually locked up. Hold it over a trash can and rotate by hand to break up the chunks and clean it out, then reinstall in reverse order making sure the belt is routed correctly. This has fixed 99% of the sc 495 codes I have seen on this model. BTW, I'm pretty sure this procedure is not outlined in the manual.
                NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                • slimslob
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                  Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

                  Originally posted by marvin-vegan
                  You are correct, this procedure is definitely not mentioned in manual.


                  Can have several causes: What is the condition of the 1st collection bottle? There two bottles - one in front (user replaceable) second on left side (engineer replaceable) PCDU waste is gathered in the front bottle. Sometimes the coil in the bottle breaks. Sometime sensor, that detects the bottle fails.
                  One major problem with your reply. It is not a color machine. It is a 51 ppm black and white. Original launch date November 2004.

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                  • marvin-vegan
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                    • Jan 2021
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                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    One major problem with your reply. It is not a color machine. It is a 51 ppm black and white. Original launch date November 2004.

                    Ohh, my bad. These machines are still in field?? Thank you for letting me know. I deleted the post!
                    Last edited by marvin-vegan; 01-11-2021, 10:43 AM. Reason: additional comment

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                    • luca72
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                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

                      Originally posted by cucuklotz
                      Hi
                      I saw on copytechnet.com post in the past that this is a Toner Recycling Error.
                      I went to machine today but not sure how to get to assembly and sensor to clean.
                      I have been trying to purchase The Service manual/Parts for this machine online.I brought 2 manuals to download
                      a little while ago($20 waste) .They are not showing anything about toner recycling mechanism so it is not
                      helpful. Does anyone know where I can purchase a reliable service manual with disassembly included?
                      I`m having trouble finding any manuals on this model.
                      THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
                      ANDY



                      try with a nice powerful toner vacuum cleaner, to connect the tube instead of the waste toner container, and tap with the screwdriver handle on the exhaust tube, also check the "classification unit assy" that it is in perfect condition
                      "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                      • cucuklotz
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                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh Aficio 2051SP /SC 495

                        Hey Everybody
                        Just catching up.I Didnt return to the call right away(actually 3 weeks later) and I followed all the
                        suggestions about cleaning out the white tube and the sensor(very dirty).After
                        putting together SC495 code WAS GONE.
                        THANK YOU ALL FOR ALWAYS BEING ON POINT with the help
                        ANDY

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