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  • Mark Bbb
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    • Jun 2012
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    paper - inkjet laser copier

    I learned 30 years ago that only 'copier paper' is suitable for a copier.
    Laser would be for printers and inkjet for inkjet.
    If inkjet paper would be used in a copier, that would melt in the fusing unit because of the coating on that paper.
    In that time some customers bought laser quality for use in copier and told me that won't be a problem...
    So, I investigate and find out that the fusing unit would last longer with 'copier' or 'copy' on the cover.
    Today I looked quick on the internet and can't find a site that says to use 'copy' on a MFP.
    They all say to use the 'laser' quality.
    But still most papercovers here make a difference between 'laser' and 'copy'
    What do you know about this?
    Last edited by Mark Bbb; 04-07-2021, 02:46 PM.
  • DRichard
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    • May 2008
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    Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

    Originally posted by Mark Bbb
    I learned 30 years ago that only 'copier paper' is suitable for a copier.
    Laser would be for printers and inkjet for inkjet.
    If inkjet paper would be used in a copier, that would melt in the fusing unit because of the coating on that paper.
    In that time some customers bought laser quality for use in copier and told me that won't be a problem...
    So, I investigate and find out that the fusing unit would last longer with 'copier' of 'copy' on the cover.
    Today I looked quick on the internet and can't find a site that says to use 'copy' on a MFP.
    They all say to use the 'laser' quality.
    But still most papercovers here make a difference between 'laser' and 'copy'
    What do you know about this?
    About THIS? Not much...but I DO think bacon ALWAYS improves a burger.
    "Enjoy every sandwich."

    -- Warren Zevon

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    • Mark Bbb
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      • Jun 2012
      • 1662

      #3
      Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

      Originally posted by DRichard
      About THIS? Not much...but I DO think bacon ALWAYS improves a burger.
      Do you know the 'beyond burger'? It's vegetarian and tastes better than the 'meat thing'....

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      • Phil B.
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        • Jul 2016
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        Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

        Originally posted by Mark Bbb
        I learned 30 years ago that only 'copier paper' is suitable for a copier.
        Laser would be for printers and inkjet for inkjet.
        If inkjet paper would be used in a copier, that would melt in the fusing unit because of the coating on that paper.
        In that time some customers bought laser quality for use in copier and told me that won't be a problem...
        So, I investigate and find out that the fusing unit would last longer with 'copier' of 'copy' on the cover.
        Today I looked quick on the internet and can't find a site that says to use 'copy' on a MFP.
        They all say to use the 'laser' quality.
        But still most papercovers here make a difference between 'laser' and 'copy'
        What do you know about this?
        Inkjet paper won't melt.
        Inkjet is more porous so the ink bleeds into it.
        The reason they say not to use in laser copiers is it sucks up the oil in the fuser therefore drying it out then it could wrap n jam.

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        • Phil B.
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          Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
          I learned 30 years ago that only 'copier paper' is suitable for a copier.
          Laser would be for printers and inkjet for inkjet.
          If inkjet paper would be used in a copier, that would melt in the fusing unit because of the coating on that paper.
          In that time some customers bought laser quality for use in copier and told me that won't be a problem...
          So, I investigate and find out that the fusing unit would last longer with 'copier' or 'copy' on the cover.
          Today I looked quick on the internet and can't find a site that says to use 'copy' on a MFP.
          They all say to use the 'laser' quality.
          But still most papercovers here make a difference between 'laser' and 'copy'
          What do you know about this?
          BS

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          • Debs1964
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            • Oct 2010
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            Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

            Originally posted by Mark Bbb
            Do you know the 'beyond burger'? It's vegetarian and tastes better than the 'meat thing'....
            Anything tastes better than the taste of death
            There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary maths and those who don't

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            • slimslob
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              • May 2013
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              #7
              Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

              Originally posted by Phil B.
              Inkjet paper won't melt.
              Inkjet is more porous so the ink bleeds into it.
              The reason they say not to use in laser copiers is it sucks up the oil in the fuser therefore drying it out then it could wrap n jam.

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              That depends on the type of inkjet paper. The coating on some high gloss inkjet paper will. I had a high school find that out the hard way.

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              • slimslob
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                Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                Do you know the 'beyond burger'? It's vegetarian and tastes better than the 'meat thing'....
                The ones sold by Burger King here in California taste more like saw dust.

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                • Phil B.
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                  Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  That depends on the type of inkjet paper. The coating on some high gloss inkjet paper will. I had a high school find that out the hard way.
                  I have NEVER had inkjet paper 'melt' in the fuser unit... transparencies yes.

                  it seems to me if the paper was coated in 'plastic' the ink wouldn't absorb into thus smearing the ink.

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                  • slimslob
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                    Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    I have NEVER had inkjet paper 'melt' in the fuser unit... transparencies yes.

                    it seems to me if the paper was coated in 'plastic' the ink wouldn't absorb into thus smearing the ink.
                    At the high school it didn't melt. It had portions peal off and stick to the fusing roller. Since the glossy paper was only a cover sheet, it was then offset onto subsequent pages.

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                    • Phil B.
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                      Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                      Originally posted by slimslob
                      At the high school it didn't melt. It had portions peal off and stick to the fusing roller. Since the glossy paper was only a cover sheet, it was then offset onto subsequent pages.
                      ahh ok thanks for clearing that up.. yes it gets jammed ...peals off due to lack of oil on the fuser rollers.

                      I had a middle school that was going through fusers left and right. the copy room was stocked with laser grade Hammermill 90 bright. So it was stumping me until I was there replacing something like the 4th or 5th fuser when In walks a new teacher carrying her OWN paper .. guess what it was INKJET paper. She demanded to know when I would be finished .. I said about an hour.. she went to another copier ..about 10 mins later after running 200 copies she screamed and cussed at the machine.
                      The principle and I came running ... the paper was wrapped around the hot roller ... " Why does this always happen to me" I pointed out it's the inkjet paper you are using .. "That's stupid PAPER IS PAPER"
                      I pointed out the sticker on the ream showing her the INKJET statement and told the principle that inkjet paper dries the oil out of the fuser quickly.
                      He told the teacher to use the supplied paper and to take hers back home.
                      From then on the fusers went life and sometimes beyond

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                      • luca72
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                        #12
                        Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                        Originally posted by Phil B.
                        Inkjet paper won't melt.
                        Inkjet is more porous so the ink bleeds into it.
                        The reason they say not to use in laser copiers is it sucks up the oil in the fuser therefore drying it out then it could wrap n jam.

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                        I think the media, the thicker it is, the more it tends to ruin the rollers / sleeves at the edge, due to the detachment / cut ... but this is my thought, I have not done any tests
                        "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                        • Phil B.
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                          Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                          Originally posted by luca72
                          I think the media, the thicker it is, the more it tends to ruin the rollers / sleeves at the edge, due to the detachment / cut ... but this is my thought, I have not done any tests
                          the 'teacher' example I gave was 32# yellow paper. don't know if the color made a damn, but it sure tore fusers up.

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                          • DRichard
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                            Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                            Originally posted by Debs1964
                            Anything tastes better than the taste of death
                            Not meaning to repeat myself, but bacon will make death taste good AND mute the tortured cries of the innocent victims. Bacon washes away all sins.
                            "Enjoy every sandwich."

                            -- Warren Zevon

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                            • Phil B.
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                              Re: paper - inkjet laser copier

                              Originally posted by DRichard
                              Not meaning to repeat myself, but bacon will make death taste good AND mute the tortured cries of the innocent victims. Bacon washes away all sins.
                              Only faith in Jesus Christ and giving your soul to God can abolish sin.
                              Yeah bacon is good but cannot wash your sins away.

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